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Hello everyone,

First of all, let me apologize for taking your time and space for this probably useless post, and I'm sorry I'm not so patience to just look around by myself, but I could really use some expert eye.

I have a particular situation because I don't have any money limitation (from 1,2 to 1,6k euros - yes I'm from europe) I just want a good computer to play with and watch movies mainly.

Keep in mind that I've been using mac for years now, so even if I'm not a complete new-be in the pc word I may not be so friendly with new terms or technical specifications.

I will now list all the parts I selected based on my personal experience and the help of a friend (Keep in mind that there are mouse, speakers, keyboard and more)

-MB Asus P5K-VM
-CPU Intel Core2 Duo E6750 2.67 Ghz FSB1333 4MB Box
-RAM DDR 2 2BG PC-6400 OCZ Ati crossfire Edition x2
-MAST DVD Nec Sata 7200
-Audio board? Extreme-music? Have no idea, maybe the integrated one is enough?
-Thermaltake Xaser 2 A6000A black+window
-GF 8800 GTS G92 (Maybe Ati Radeon HD 3870?)
-Samsung 22" LCD 226BW (Nice for gaming?)
-Copperhead Razer mouse (Lachesis got way worse reviews?)
-500W? 600W? not much about the company since there are pretty much the same.
-HDD Seagate barracuda 10 250GB 7200-RPM Sata-2 16MB x2
-Lycosa Razer Keyboard (Only keyboard I found with lights and low keys)
-Razer Exactmat pad (Don't even now if I should feel like an idiot asking about, but some told me that a good pad can improve game performance..)
-Window vista (And linux of course maybe Unix or Ubuntu), quite a question here since I have no idea how worse it got from XP and how much gaming could be affected)
-Headset? I use a macbook with microphone so I need a new Headphone and have no idea which way to go for (Maybe razers headset? Seems really nice even if expansive
-Speakers? No idea here, don't wanna spend too much on sound maybe just a 50 euro creative speakers?


Main computer usage: Gaming, Movies, Move/Audio Editing (Actually at low level, but still).

Questions in particular for easy answering:
1) Do you think this build could work (Including if these pieces can work Together)

2) Do you have any suggestion in general or any information I should look into before spending any money

3) Would you actually use the money to buy a gaming computer or you think it's better to wait and earn more cash?)

4)Any suggestion regarding a piece I choose?

5)Do you think it's a waste of money buy good case/mouse/keyboard instead of getting a stronger video card or any other more important part?

What I'm looking for is some mature answer, so even if you consider this post trash or you don't like the way I wrote and anything like that please do not answer with anything like: Zomg wth dude u needz more skillz man.
Even answer like "You made a mess there, it's just a total waste of money" is much more appreciated.

Edit: I am not going to upgrade this computer for quite some time (1 year and a half probably) (Though this could be a useful information especially about duo or quad choice)

P.s.= I'm sorry for my bad english but it's not my first language and I'm sure everything is pretty much understandable.

Thanks already for reading

-Jupitel
post #2 of 7
If my memory serves, the P5K-VM is a motherboard with onboard graphics - something you don't really need. I believe it's also Micro-ATX which is a general no-no for overclockers. Pick up a proper P35 board like the Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R (make sure it's the DS3R since that supports RAID, and you picked out two hard drives).

The E6750 is a good chip, but I'd try to bump it up to the E8200 if at all possible. If the budget doesn't allow it, it's not a big deal - it's still a good processor. If you want to upgrade to a quad-core chip in the future, I might even consider a budget chip like the E2160 to hold you over until you can afford one. The E2160 is dirt cheap, will overclock very well, and won't break your heart when you upgrade to a quad-core chip and get rid of it.

You're getting 8GB of RAM? That's entirely up to you, but it's a complete waste of money for a gaming rig. If you're a graphic artist and work on large files it will come in handy, but 4GB is more than enough for right now.

Sound card is more of an extra compared to most onboard audio solutions. If you're an audiophile it's a must (but if you're an audiophile you won't be shopping for a Creative X-Fi card anyway), but if not, it's more of an extra. If you get a solid rig and have enough left-over for a sound card, go ahead and pick one up, but if you don't have the money, don't bother with it.

Not a huge fan of that case, but that's more of a personal choice, and entirely up to you.

The graphics card is a good choice, but I'd probably cut back to the 8800GT unless silence and performance are both primary concerns.

The monitor is great for gaming.

I'd switch the mouse to the Razer Death Adder instead of the Copperhead. Infrared offers better tracking over laser technology (from what I've heard anyway).

For the power supply, a decent 450-550w power supply is more than enough for what you have planned. Anything from Corsair, Seasonic, PC Power & Cooling, Tagan, Enermax, Etasis, or Silverstone will be just fine.

Hard drives are a good choice, I like Seagate. I might try upping the size a bit, but it's not necessary and you know how much stuff you store.

The Lycosa keyboard is a great choice, I'd definitely pick one up if I didn't already have a G11.

A decent mousepad is definitely nice to have.

For Vista, get Vista Home Premium 64-bit given how much RAM you've got planned.

Headsets I'm not too keen on - I like Sennheiser headphones, but those don't usually come with mics. I'm not big on the whole online gaming/voice chat bit, so you'll need someone else to help out here.

Speakers I probably wouldn't bother with right away if you're getting headphones unless there's a specific reason you need more than one person to hear your computer. Any 50 euro speakers should do just fine for general use.

To answer your bottom questions:

1: Yes, your build will work just fine as planned (assuming you take my advice on the parts you weren't sure about), although you won't be able to run RAID on the motherboard you picked out.

2: Aside from what you've picked out there, I'd definitely consider an aftermarket CPU cooler if you want to do any overclocking. Along with that it might be a good idea to pick up some aftermarket thermal paste if the heatsink you pick out doesn't come with any, or comes with low-quality stuff. Also double-check how many fans the case you picked out can actually mount versus how many it comes with - you might want to buy a few extra fans to fill any vacant fan slots, or just get higher-performance fans. Also check your motherboard bundle - most boards only come with one or two SATA connectors, and you've got three SATA devices picked out, none of which come with SATA cables. You'll most likely need another one (I'd recommend a 24" cable for your optical drive since the standard length in most motherboards is 18"), at least if you want to run all your devices.

3: I'm not sure of exact prices in your area, but you almost certainly have plenty of money for a very nice rig. The fact that this is a full build (with monitor, speakers/headphones, etc.) is going to push things a bit, but there's no sense in waiting forever. Within the next month will be just fine if you need to get another few hundred dollars together.

4: Already listed.

5: Not at all - a good case, keyboard, and mouse will last you for 4-5 years. A better graphics card than what you have picked out will likely only be competitive for a few months longer than the 8800GTS 512MB - and you'll probably be looking for an upgrade to that card within two years. A good investment in a keyboard, mouse, and case right now is a great choice, as it'll get you parts that should last the lifetime of your machine, probably longer. If the components were forcing you down to a mid-range graphics card, then I'd say it's not worth it, but if you're not sacrificing much performance for those components, they're a great way to go.

And your English is just fine, I wouldn't have even guessed you weren't a native speaker.
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yeah, the only flaw I saw was the micro ATX mobo.
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I absolutely LOVE it when people fall for the crossfire/sli certified parts.
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post #5 of 7
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Thank you all for the fast and clear answers
post #6 of 7
Maybe you want to change that CPU to a E8400 or a E8500. It performs better.
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Also an E8400 is a 45nm chip which is a newer technology (thus better performance) and temperatures will be better as well.
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WD 320GB SATA II+250GB Hitachi 7200rpm IDE LG DVD-RW 3ple-Boot: SuSE 10.3 - XP x64 - Vista Ultimate x64 ASUS 22" VW222S 1680x1050 
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