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you dont have a stand off in the wrong place do you .
if so it mat be touching the back of the mobo.
    
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Originally Posted by Retrospekt View Post
Just did that and it did not show video or make any beeps. So it is either my motherboard shorting out or my video. What now?
I would make sure that the GFX card is fitting into the slot all the way when mounted. If for some reason the mobo is sitting in the casae too low, the GFX card back plate will not allow the card to seat in the slot. You sould also try to insulate the GFX card plate with electrical tape to see it that is shorting out. As far as the mobo, the only thing I can think of is to mount it with as few stanf-offs as possible and see if that helps. You may even be able to move them around a few times (remounting in between) to see if you can isolate the one that is shorting out.


When I have issues like this, I try to do whatever I can to isolate different things to see if I can narrow down the issue.

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you dont have a stand off in the wrong place do you .
if so it mat be touching the back of the mobo.


Good point.
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Definitely a grounding issue..IO pannel is a good call...any new heatsinks backplates that could be touching the back of the case/motherboard at same time?
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Have you got some thin, non-conductive washers you can put on the standoffs before you lay the mother board on (fiber / nylon etc.). Also when you screw the motherboard down, does it look like your flexing the motherboard (I've see standoffs put it that are different heights).
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Definitely a grounding issue..IO pannel is a good call...any new heatsinks backplates that could be touching the back of the case/motherboard at same time?
I don't have an I/O panel.

I have the Tuniq Tower backplate, buts its been there for months.

I just checked standoffs, everything is perfect. I am putting tape over the end of the video card pci bracket to see if that does anything.
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I don't have an I/O panel.

I have the Tuniq Tower backplate, buts its been there for months.

I just checked standoffs, everything is perfect. I am putting tape over the end of the video card pci bracket to see if that does anything.

I had a shorting issue with my Big Typhoon back plate. Two spots of solder had worn through the foam and were grounding on the plate. Also, sounds stupid, but are you remembering to plug in the GFX power before booting?


edit: Actually, does that GFX card have a 6 pin?
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I had a shorting issue with my Big Typhoon back plate. Two spots of solder had worn through the foam and were grounding on the plate. Also, sounds stupid, but are you remembering to plug in the GFX power before booting?
My GPU doesn't need an external power source.

I have never taken off the Tuniq backplate, so I'm pretty sure the foam is perfectly in tact.

I just tried the GPU with tape over it, still nothing. That rules it out. My motherboard must be shorting somewhere...
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This is a very weird problem. I read about stuff like this and I never understand it. I have experienced many many many computers in my life time. From supports 500 users in big companies with nice IBM or Dell whatever it was with more dust in them, then all the dust combined by all our users X 100. I couldnt even go under the table to plug in a network cable. I had to hold my breath or keep blowing smoke. These cases were cheap, and I believe they were 386s lol @ a pumping 100Mhz LOL , But @ that time it was Ok I guess using WIndows 95 or WIndows 3.1 they booted up in 10 seconds LOL, Anyhow I have many experienced with building and just stuff being touched on metal when they shouldnt just a lot of crazy stuff. Ive helped many build PC's with cheap cases, no instruction to them. Lord knows how they mounted the motherboard on the case. But never ever a grounding issue.

I think we are @ a time in technology where the PSU's and motherboards have advanced to stop things like grounding issues or computers not booting up and posting. When I read a post like this, honestly I am clueless as a duck in a pond. You guys no way more then me about elecriticyt how it works, grounding issues blah blah etc etc. Soo you can help this guy out way more then I ever will.

This is just a mystery to me when I read stuff like this, sometimes it doesn't make sense, when in actuality it should make sense.

I think that right now you should just be glad that none of your components have blown up. Because its way rose to go buy another GPU ,,, mobo blah blah. More headache.

I think the most important thing is that your case should be above ground level, wheter carpet or wooden floor. Also you must make sure your motherboard is not flat on the metal case. Do your screws correctly put those black plastic thingies, Install it properly. Im not saying you cant, but obviously this seems like a mobo issue inside a case. Remember you put those weird looking screws then you place the mobo on it.. then you screw it in from the top. Not too tight but tight enough. I really want to rule out your PSU, soo I guess the gurus on this site make sense to say put your PSU outside the case.

Im at lost for words when one second or for months or years your PC is fine, then suddenly it wont turn on.

I think there is plently of hope for you, because if all your components are working and not dead, then right there you have a reason to be happy. I wish you GL , BTW what type of case do you have, Im sorry if I missed it in your sig..... Does it have legs on the bottom ? .. Also do simple things like not connecting your speakers, because right there there can be interference. GL ,, keep us posted and lets hope these guys can help you way more then I did. This was more a informational thread more so a fix for your problem.

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Well I just checked and I guess CoolerMaster gave me different sized standoffs. I ony have 6 identical ones, the others vary in heigh very very little. I am missing 1 standoff, now what the heck do I do...

Would such a tiny tiny variation in standoffs cause the computer to not boot? It doesn't make sense to me.
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sounds like a grounding problem
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