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As for the first, the bokeh is very subjective. Some love it, some hate it. You two seem to be in the latter. I personally think it looks really interesting. The second, it may be no 135L, but for $100, it's not too bad.tongue.gif I think i'll pass on them for now i guess. Probably still keep the idea of getting them tucked away some where though.biggrin.gif


Also, i think "good" bokeh is very subjective. Like photography i guess.tongue.gif It's mostly personal preference.

Yeah, it really is subjective. The general consensus seems to be that smoother blurring = better, because it draws attention to the subject, while complex bokeh distracts from it.

What do you shoot? There are probably better lenses available, depending on what you're willing to spend.
 
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So I had a chance to shoot some fall colors with my "new" 1dsmkIII/85 f/1.2 yesterday and noticed something strange but consistant. All my shots with red tones/hues in them have red channels that are blown to some degree. dialing back on sat to a point where red is on scale results in an otherwise flat image.

Fiddling with WB didn't seem to produce anything acceptable.

Is this a Canon "feature"?

Shots with my D3 and D300s don't exhibit this behavior.

I've googled Canon blown red channel and found some suggestions. Just wondered if anyone else has experienced this.
    
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As for the first, the bokeh is very subjective. Some love it, some hate it. You two seem to be in the latter. I personally think it looks really interesting. The second, it may be no 135L, but for $100, it's not too bad. I think i'll pass on them for now i guess. Probably still keep the idea of getting them tucked away some where though.


Also, i think "good" bokeh is very subjective. Like photography i guess. It's mostly personal preference.
Bokeh is subjective when it comes down to it, but there are objective features. Outlining, as pointed out, is a big one. Outlining is ugly and distracting, which bokeh should never be. Other common gripes about bokeh are non-circular highlights (often happens when stopping down), substructures, "cats eyes" (ovular bokeh highlights), etc. For me outlining is a big pet peeve. It might look interesting at first, but it's ultimately distracting.

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So I had a chance to shoot some fall colors with my "new" 1dsmkIII/85 f/1.2 yesterday and noticed something strange but consistant. All my shots with red tones/hues in them have red channels that are blown to some degree. dialing back on sat to a point where red is on scale results in an otherwise flat image.

Fiddling with WB didn't seem to produce anything acceptable.

Is this a Canon "feature"?

Shots with my D3 and D300s don't exhibit this behavior.

I've googled Canon blown red channel and found some suggestions. Just wondered if anyone else has experienced this.
Hm, samples? I seem to recall something about this too once, but don't recall the particulars or which cameras specifically it occurred in.
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So i've been thinking of picking up a bokeh monster, but i'm not sure. Bokeh monster= Meyer Trioplan 100mm 2.8 and/or Meyer Orestor 135mm 2.8. The Trioplan has just plain crazy bokeh, where as the Orestor has insanely creamy/smooth bokeh. The Trioplan i've seen go for an average of $200. The Orestor Seems to go for like $100 average.

A good pickup for some old school manual focus lenses for epic bokeh, or should i pass?

And if you haven't seen, here are examples. Trioplan is first one, Orestor is second.

http://www.4photos.de/test/Fr%C3%BCh...r%C3%BCn--.jpg

http://colormaniac.smugmug.com/Other...HK3nf-XL-1.jpg
The first one reminds me of the type you get from leica noctilux f/0.95 and f/1s. I don't think it's for everyone.
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Oh hey people are awake again

/Pulled an all nighter
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I was at the dentist this morning and while waiting I picked up an issue of Consumer Reports that happened to have DSLR reviews and ratings in it.

After reading it I think Consumer Reports should stick to testing toasters and washing machines. They claim the 60D takes better pictures and has a better pop up flash than the 7D, and the T2i (the body, no mention of lenses) has very good image stabilization compared to other cameras.
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Hahaha.

Hey, dont change the subject that I just now remembered to bring up -- have you called Canon and raged about their horrible service and your bad luck with 50s?
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Woops



Went out in a lightning storm. Amazingly I was actually under an umbrella :S Didn't get any useful shots anyway.
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So I had a chance to shoot some fall colors with my "new" 1dsmkIII/85 f/1.2 yesterday and noticed something strange but consistant. All my shots with red tones/hues in them have red channels that are blown to some degree. dialing back on sat to a point where red is on scale results in an otherwise flat image.

Fiddling with WB didn't seem to produce anything acceptable.

Is this a Canon "feature"?

Shots with my D3 and D300s don't exhibit this behavior.

I've googled Canon blown red channel and found some suggestions. Just wondered if anyone else has experienced this.
The 1DII had that issue, IIRC. Weird, neither the 1DIII nor 1DIV I was shooting had that issue, though -- is the FW up to date? Also, better check and see if the RGB histogram is sensitive to picture styles, as they are applied to the preview image in-camera, but not to the RAW file unless you process in DPP.
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