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I'm loving this macro lens.



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That photo was taken with the EF-S 60mm Macro? Awesome shot.

I have two questions though... Last night I tried to take some night shots through the window of my bedroom (Taken at f/3.5 and f/7.1) with high exposure times (5~10 sec). I noticed that the photo blurred quite a bit, is it normal with such high exposure times?

I removed the lens to check it properly for some defects (none), when I placed it back on the body I got a tiny particle of dust on the lower left corner of the sensor (what rotten luck), the self cleaning process isn't strong enough to shake it out, so I have to clean manually. My doubt is, I have a small micro fiber cloth, is it safe to use it to remove the dust particle off the sensor by passing on it very lightly, just enough for the weight of the tip of the cloth to grab it?

Cheers


EDIT: Gone, just read your edit on the previous page on the recommendations on the macro and telephoto lens. The macro lens is affordable, and if it's worth it, I'll save up. The 55-250 IS seems like an excellent deal.

Well then, (finally...I think) it's settled:

EF 50mm f/1.8 II - 108€
Sigma 10-20mm F4-5.6 EX DC HSM - 496€ I think Sigmas HSM is like Canons USM AF motors
EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS 289€
EF-S 60mm f/2.8 Macro USM 419€
Edited by Dragoon - 1/16/09 at 2:50am
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I'm loving this macro lens.
Yeah, awesome isn't it?

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That photo was taken with the EF-S 60mm Macro? Awesome shot.

I have two questions though... Last night I tried to take some night shots through the window of my bedroom (Taken at f/3.5 and f/7.1) with high exposure times (5~10 sec). I noticed that the photo blurred quite a bit, is it normal with such high exposure times?

I removed the lens to check it properly for some defects (none), when I placed it back on the body I got a tiny particle of dust on the lower left corner of the sensor (what rotten luck), the self cleaning process isn't strong enough to shake it out, so I have to clean manually. My doubt is, I have a small micro fiber cloth, is it safe to use it to remove the dust particle off the sensor by passing on it very lightly, just enough for the weight of the tip of the cloth to grab it?

Cheers


EDIT: Gone, just read your edit on the previous page on the recommendations on the macro and telephoto lens. The macro lens is affordable, and if it's worth it, I'll save up. The 55-250 IS seems like an excellent deal.

Well then, (finally...I think) it's settled:

EF 50mm f/1.8 II - 108€
Sigma 10-20mm F4-5.6 EX DC HSM - 496€ I think Sigmas HSM is like Canons USM AF motors
EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS 289€
EF-S 60mm f/2.8 Macro USM 419€
Dragoon, when doing long exposures with the camera stationary, you need to turn the IS on the lens off. It plays havoc with the camera when doing long exposures for some reasons. Try again and see for yourself: watch the AF points during the exposure, you'll notice the picture "drifts" slowly. It's strange and took me forever to figure out that IS was the culprit. IS is only for shorter shutter speeds that are hand held.

And definitely DON'T touch your sensor with even a microfiber cloth. There are some options if you have a tenacious piece of dust on your sensor:
1. Use a bulb blower (I use a Giotto Rocket blower, in expensive, usually takes care of things)
2. Use a Copperhill cleaning kit (http://www.copperhillimages.com/index.php)
3. Send it off to Canon to be cleaned, or take to a local authorized service center (if there is one)
And I wouldn't use canned air either. Some do, but canned air puts out a lot of pressure and can actually dislodge components or force dust even further into the camera body. Plus, there's always the risk that an unexpected jet of liquid will come out.

And your lens lineup looks decent - although, you could do one of two things two things: either don't get the 50mm f/1.8 and put the cost of that towards the EF 70-300mm USM IS, OR dump the EF 55-250mm f/4-5.6 and put the money from that towards the EF 50mm f/1.4 USM. Just a thought, that way you can have better glass and then eventually get the other. The EF-S 60m, and Sigma 10-20mm are definitely very good choices. The Sigma is nearly the equal of the Canon 10-22mm, so I'm interested to see how it works for you.
Edited by GoneTomorrow - 1/16/09 at 6:51am
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Any tripod recommendations?

Mine from 6th grade (i'm in 11th now, lol) has a huge bent leg and looks like it's ready to finally be put to rest. So I need a new tripod. I'm looking for one that's pretty versatile and is also easy to travel with.
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I have a Manfrotto 725b, one of their cheapest tripods. It's still about $145 or so, but so worth it, the quality is much better than the cheapy ones you see at Best Buy. It's also relatively lightweight compared to some of the beastly high-end tripods they make. Also check out Slik tripods, I've read good things about them as well.
Does it really matter? As long as it holds the camera steady, who cares (Real question, not trying to be an ass )?
    
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Well, I suppose the higher-end tripods might have heavier-duty clutch mechanisms for adjusting, so they probably don't wear out as easily. I've got a fairly old tripod (my dad got it with his first SLR I think back in the 80s...), and it works fine.
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Does it really matter? As long as it holds the camera steady, who cares (Real question, not trying to be an ass )?
I thought the same thing for a long time until I actually got a quality tripod. All I can say is try one if you can, there are several decent brands: Manfrotto, Gitzo, Slik, etc. Yes, the cheaper ones get the job done I suppose, but the build quality is terrible, making fine adjustments is a hassle, they can be wobbly, aren't as durable, etc. I had a Vanguard tripod that I got at Meijer for a couple of years, and it was ok I guess, but the quick release plate was crappy and wouldn't stay tightened, and it left circular scratches on the bottom of the camera body. Also, there was a knob for every single kind of movement, whereas on my Manfrotto, you simple twist one knob, which frees the ball joint and you can move the camera to any position quickly.
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I thought the same thing for a long time until I actually got a quality tripod. All I can say is try one if you can, there are several decent brands: Manfrotto, Gitzo, Slik, etc. Yes, the cheaper ones get the job done I suppose, but the build quality is terrible, making fine adjustments is a hassle, they can be wobbly, aren't as durable, etc. I had a Vanguard tripod that I got at Meijer for a couple of years, and it was ok I guess, but the quick release plate was crappy and wouldn't stay tightened, and it left circular scratches on the bottom of the camera body. Also, there was a knob for every single kind of movement, whereas on my Manfrotto, you simple twist one knob, which frees the ball joint and you can move the camera to any position quickly.
Well that makes sense. I've had the same tripod forever (Dad used to use it for his in the early 80s). He spent some decent moolah on it and I could never figure out why he would. Thanx for the info!
    
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Any tripod recommendations?

Mine from 6th grade (i'm in 11th now, lol) has a huge bent leg and looks like it's ready to finally be put to rest. So I need a new tripod. I'm looking for one that's pretty versatile and is also easy to travel with.
i got the Manfrotto 785B, advantage, its a 5 section so it folds REALLY small.
i stick it in my back pack for skiing and biking no problem.

the down side, with 5 sections its not as sturdy as the 725b, Gone recommended but still pretty good none the less.

i would recommend going to a camera shop and just playing around with a few of them to see what would fit your needs, but if you want something easy to travel with the 785 delivers.
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Yeah, awesome isn't it?



Dragoon, when doing long exposures with the camera stationary, you need to turn the IS on the lens off. It plays havoc with the camera when doing long exposures for some reasons. Try again and see for yourself: watch the AF points during the exposure, you'll notice the picture "drifts" slowly. It's strange and took me forever to figure out that IS was the culprit. IS is only for shorter shutter speeds that are hand held.

And definitely DON'T touch your sensor with even a microfiber cloth. There are some options if you have a tenacious piece of dust on your sensor:
1. Use a bulb blower (I use a Giotto Rocket blower, in expensive, usually takes care of things)
2. Use a Copperhill cleaning kit (http://www.copperhillimages.com/index.php)
3. Send it off to Canon to be cleaned, or take to a local authorized service center (if there is one)
And I wouldn't use canned air either. Some do, but canned air puts out a lot of pressure and can actually dislodge components or force dust even further into the camera body. Plus, there's always the risk that an unexpected jet of liquid will come out.

And your lens lineup looks decent - although, you could do one of two things two things: either don't get the 50mm f/1.8 and put the cost of that towards the EF 70-300mm USM IS, OR dump the EF 55-250mm f/4-5.6 and put the money from that towards the EF 50mm f/1.4 USM. Just a thought, that way you can have better glass and then eventually get the other. The EF-S 60m, and Sigma 10-20mm are definitely very good choices. The Sigma is nearly the equal of the Canon 10-22mm, so I'm interested to see how it works for you.
Alright, then I definitely will not use the cloth. Well, this morning I was looking into some cleaning kits, those blowers aren't too expensive, but if they do the job, fine by me, imho it's better to use air to "touch" the sensor than something material.

I was expecting the 50mm f/1.4 USM to be expensive as hell lol
To buy that one, I'll put the 50mm f/1.8 down and hold the 55-250 for much later... I'll focus first on the Sigma 10-20 (Love how the Canon compatible is cheaper than Nikon and Pentax ), then the 60mm macro, then the 55-250 (the 70-300 is out of reach... nearly 700€). That'll take me a year lol, all summed up goes 1.5k easily (I might even be lucky and prices drop in the meantime)

Oh, and is this you were talking about?
Does it always work out for you? That cleaning kit you linked looks very nice, but I can't find it around here. I'll go with that rocket blower.


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Alright, then I definitely will not use the cloth. Well, this morning I was looking into some cleaning kits, those blowers aren't too expensive, but if they do the job, fine by me, imho it's better to use air to "touch" the sensor than something material.

I was expecting the 50mm f/1.4 USM to be expensive as hell lol
To buy that one, I'll put the 50mm f/1.8 down and hold the 55-250 for much later... I'll focus first on the Sigma 10-20 (Love how the Canon compatible is cheaper than Nikon and Pentax ), then the 60mm macro, then the 55-250 (the 70-300 is out of reach... nearly 700€). That'll take me a year lol, all summed up goes 1.5k easily (I might even be lucky and prices drop in the meantime)

Oh, and is this you were talking about?
Does it always work out for you? That cleaning kit you linked looks very nice, but I can't find it around here. I'll go with that rocket blower.

Yeah, that's the Giotto. I have a medium blower I think, and it fits snugly into my camera case (the nozzle is removable). It's fairly effective. When I use it, I hold the camera body facing the ground, and use the blower from the bottom so dust will fall out. I do this religiously to prevent dust from sticking. If the Giotto doesn't get rid of it, then you will have to get it cleaned professionally (or find another wet cleaning kit, but I don't know of any others besides Copperhill).
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