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Are you okay with buying used? If so, you can get this camera and this lens for $204 shipped or this camera with this lens for $174 shipped.
If you must have new, the best you'll be able to get is a crappy point-and-shoot, which generally won't be as good as either of these cameras. They're both older cameras which is why they're so cheap, but the photos will still be excellent. The two main things they won't have that newer cameras have are improved low light performance (both only go to ISO 1600, and neither performs well at that) and megapixel count, which is largely irrelevant for most people's uses. Even the 6.3 megapixels on the Canon will be way more than enough for posting them on the web (a 1080p screen is only 2MP to give you an idea) and small-medium prints (up to 8x10 will look good). Regarding the low-light performance, it looks like most new point-and-shoots in that price range also max around 1600, but these SLRs perform better at that sensitivity (though I'd still say to keep it under 800 pretty much all the time). They're also going to have much better optics than a p&s, and she will be able to get new lenses and keep them when she upgrades to a new body. Having used both lenses, I can say for certain that the Olympus one is optically superior, but Olympus has ceased production of their SLR cameras, save the pro-level E-5, but that was only made to satisfy pros who had already put massive amounts of money into Olympus SLR lenses. In the future, she would have to switch to Micro four thirds (google it) if she wanted to continue using her lenses, but doing so would require an adapter that runs about $150. Canon still makes cameras and lenses on the same system, so this won't be a problem if you go with that.
The other thing to take into account is size/weight. Neither of the SLRs I linked are particularly big, but they're nowhere near as small as a standard p&s. A p&s could easily be slipped into a purse, while she'd have to either wear the SLR on a strap or carry a fairly large bag. Personally I'd much rather carry the larger camera for better image quality, but you should definitely ask her about this.
IMO, go with the Olympus if you can find a way to spend that much. I'm still using a very similar camera (E410) with the exact same lens for my digital work, and it's performed admirably and doesn't feel outdated at all. The Canon likely will feel dated and will probably be missing some features the Olympus has. Olympus's cameras also tend to feel much more well-constructed than Canon's consumer line.
You'll also have to get a CF card for either camera, but these are cheap. The Olympus can also take an xD, but I recommend against that, since CF is superior and generally costs less.

Is DSLR necessary though? The person I'm getting it for is not a photographer by anymeans.... I was thinking about getting the Sony HX9V, seems like a good camera, and there are some good auctions on ebay. Granted it's over budget, but I've been looking into cameras for 2 days now, and I may be getting some help.
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Is DSLR necessary though? The person I'm getting it for is not a photographer by anymeans.... I was thinking about getting the Sony HX9V, seems like a good camera, and there are some good auctions on ebay. Granted it's over budget, but I've been looking into cameras for 2 days now, and I may be getting some help.

If you want a point and shoot, that one isn't bad. That Olympus would still be a much better camera though. Optics are better, larger sensor, more control, it has a proper viewfinder, it can actually go above ISO 200 without automatic noise reduction annihilating all detail, I could go on. I'd definitely go with the Olympus in this case. Even in auto mode, with a person who is totally clueless, the pictures will be better. Plus, this one would actually give her a chance to learn.
Edited by foothead - 3/10/12 at 7:49am
 
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^- What he said, DSLRs are in general better than 90% of point and shoots.. Theres very very few exceptions to that...
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^- What she said, DSLRs are in general better than 90% of point and shoots.. Theres very very few exceptions to that...

Fixed that for you. smile.gif




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Coming along well... I decided to call it a day after my screwdriver bit stripped to the point that it wouldn't work anymore. I'll probably finish the wood work tomorrow, then get some measurements and order the plastic. Only problem I've noticed so far is that it feels a little bit high (36 inches) but I think that'll work out since it makes it easier to reach all the way to the back without stooping over.
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not sure what you fixed in that quote. looks like your build is coming along nicely.


just got back from South Carolina after my team lost in the semi-finals for regionals. sadly their season is over and were not able to go for a second national championship win. looks like i have a little track, golf, and tennis to shoot now. not to mention some more film now that i have my Tri-X 400 to shoot biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by Conspiracy View Post

not sure what you fixed in that quote. looks like your build is coming along nicely.

Changed he to she. rolleyes.gif
Quote:
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^- What he said, DSLRs are in general better than 90% of point and shoots.. Theres very very few exceptions to that...
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^- What she said, DSLRs are in general better than 90% of point and shoots.. Theres very very few exceptions to that...
Fixed that for you. smile.gif
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wow didnt even see that, i guess im tired. nice to be back at home. i have spent so much time on the road i miss my bed. the hotel i was at this weekend was super nice but had the most uncomfortable memory foam beds ever.


well im trying to scan some of my shots from my first roll i experimented with but my super cheapo HP scanner is being annoying

o wow these scans look awful. super old worn out dirty HP scanner doing Walmart prints lol

one of my poorly scanned shots from cheap fuji walmart film tongue.gif

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Edited by Conspiracy - 3/11/12 at 12:35pm
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^- looks a bit massively overexposed to me...also kinda blocky in the details...
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cheap print and a poor scan. quality is pretty much completely lost in that image. i am working towards getting a good scanner to scan my negatives
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