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5/29/12 at 1:30pm
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5/29/12 at 1:37pm
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I like this idea. I was thinking about maybe trying to put the paper in the oven also, but our oven is filthy and I don't want to get food residue on the prints.
I'm looking into getting a press, they're just kinda hard to find. There's a couple on ebay, but both are like 14x17 max, and I'd rather have the possibility of doing 16x20 in the future.

the problem i see with sticking the paper directly in the oven is that you might burn the paper cause kitchen ovens are not all that accurate and without weights to hold it flat the paper might curl in the oven.

more importantly.....

call me old fashion, but i dont like putting paper which have been soaked in chemicals in the same over i cook in....
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5/29/12 at 2:25pm
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I like this idea. I was thinking about maybe trying to put the paper in the oven also, but our oven is filthy and I don't want to get food residue on the prints.
I'm looking into getting a press, they're just kinda hard to find. There's a couple on ebay, but both are like 14x17 max, and I'd rather have the possibility of doing 16x20 in the future.
Doesn't have to be new. Actually an old lens would be better for this. Go on ebay and start looking for an old enlarging lens somewhere around 50mm. The best ones are going to be the componons, rodagons, and el-nikkors, though I've seen some from other brands that were still pretty decent. The other option that I mentioned was an old ~50mm prime lens. I've gotten these for $1 at garage sales before, and they're almost always good quality. Look for something on M42 (pentax screwmount) since it can be adapted to pretty much anything for just a couple dollars. Yes, it's going to be more than £10, but it's very doable for well under 50, and you will get far better results than with those close-up filter things.

I've got an E Rokkor 75 that is pretty good.


This
This

A Rodagon/Componon/El Nikkor and a M42 to you lens mount adapter will do the trick.
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5/29/12 at 3:02pm
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I like this idea. I was thinking about maybe trying to put the paper in the oven also, but our oven is filthy and I don't want to get food residue on the prints.
I'm looking into getting a press, they're just kinda hard to find. There's a couple on ebay, but both are like 14x17 max, and I'd rather have the possibility of doing 16x20 in the future.

the problem i see with sticking the paper directly in the oven is that you might burn the paper cause kitchen ovens are not all that accurate and without weights to hold it flat the paper might curl in the oven.

more importantly.....

call me old fashion, but i dont like putting paper which have been soaked in chemicals in the same over i cook in....

The paper definitely won't burn. I put paper towels in the oven all the time, often at much higher temperatures than I'd be using. That's a good point about the chemicals though. I highly doubt it'd give off anything toxic, but better safe than sorry on this. I'll bring some throwaway prints home tomorrow and see what I can do.
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I like this idea. I was thinking about maybe trying to put the paper in the oven also, but our oven is filthy and I don't want to get food residue on the prints.
I'm looking into getting a press, they're just kinda hard to find. There's a couple on ebay, but both are like 14x17 max, and I'd rather have the possibility of doing 16x20 in the future.
Doesn't have to be new. Actually an old lens would be better for this. Go on ebay and start looking for an old enlarging lens somewhere around 50mm. The best ones are going to be the componons, rodagons, and el-nikkors, though I've seen some from other brands that were still pretty decent. The other option that I mentioned was an old ~50mm prime lens. I've gotten these for $1 at garage sales before, and they're almost always good quality. Look for something on M42 (pentax screwmount) since it can be adapted to pretty much anything for just a couple dollars. Yes, it's going to be more than £10, but it's very doable for well under 50, and you will get far better results than with those close-up filter things.

I've got an E Rokkor 75 that is pretty good.


This
This

A Rodagon/Componon/El Nikkor and a M42 to you lens mount adapter will do the trick.

The E-Rokkors were okay, but not the greatest lenses. The E Rokkor-Xs were quite good, but they're fairly uncommon and only available in some weird focal lengths iirc.

The lenses I've tried in that general range are a 50mm componon ( great), an 80mm componon (also great) and a 90mm wollensak (terrible.) I've also used an enlarging ektanon 8 1/2" (good) and a componon-s 135mm (very good, but slightly soft in the extreme corners.)
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5/29/12 at 7:07pm
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5/29/12 at 10:09pm
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I like this idea. I was thinking about maybe trying to put the paper in the oven also, but our oven is filthy and I don't want to get food residue on the prints.
I'm looking into getting a press, they're just kinda hard to find. There's a couple on ebay, but both are like 14x17 max, and I'd rather have the possibility of doing 16x20 in the future.
Doesn't have to be new. Actually an old lens would be better for this. Go on ebay and start looking for an old enlarging lens somewhere around 50mm. The best ones are going to be the componons, rodagons, and el-nikkors, though I've seen some from other brands that were still pretty decent. The other option that I mentioned was an old ~50mm prime lens. I've gotten these for $1 at garage sales before, and they're almost always good quality. Look for something on M42 (pentax screwmount) since it can be adapted to pretty much anything for just a couple dollars. Yes, it's going to be more than £10, but it's very doable for well under 50, and you will get far better results than with those close-up filter things.

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I've got an E Rokkor 75 that is pretty good.
This
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I like this idea. I was thinking about maybe trying to put the paper in the oven also, but our oven is filthy and I don't want to get food residue on the prints.
I'm looking into getting a press, they're just kinda hard to find. There's a couple on ebay, but both are like 14x17 max, and I'd rather have the possibility of doing 16x20 in the future.
Doesn't have to be new. Actually an old lens would be better for this. Go on ebay and start looking for an old enlarging lens somewhere around 50mm. The best ones are going to be the componons, rodagons, and el-nikkors, though I've seen some from other brands that were still pretty decent. The other option that I mentioned was an old ~50mm prime lens. I've gotten these for $1 at garage sales before, and they're almost always good quality. Look for something on M42 (pentax screwmount) since it can be adapted to pretty much anything for just a couple dollars. Yes, it's going to be more than £10, but it's very doable for well under 50, and you will get far better results than with those close-up filter things.



Thanks for the replies.

Unfortunately, it kind of looks like the first reply to a computer question did when I posted 5 years ago i.e. gobbledy-gook! smile.gif

So, I assume a prime lens just needs the correct adapter - a reversal ring? Something like this?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/M42-SCREW-MOUNT-HELIOS-44-2-f-2-58mm-2-58-PRIME-LENS-SERIAL-NUMBER-7790252-/261033115493?pt=UK_Lenses_Filters_Lenses&hash=item3cc6c93f65#ht_587wt_1397

How, what, where does the enlarger lens go? Does it attach to my current lens or the camera?

If I'm getting the cheap prime lens, what size, fitting etc do I need?

I'm a real camera n00b and just looking for a cheap toy to play with with my camera.



Thanks a lot.

Mike



edit:

How about something like this or do you have a similar opinion to the ring-type-things I linked to in my first post?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Macro-Closeup-Lens-Canon-550D-500D-450D-400D-350D-1000D-/130556279108?pt=UK_Lenses_Filters_Lenses&hash=item1e65c2b944#ht_2544wt_1163
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5/29/12 at 11:15pm
If Fuji comes out with a 23/24mm f/1.4 (f/1 preferably to equal 35L) I am buying one, along with an X-Pro 1 obviously. FINAL DECISION. Don't know where I'd get the money from though.
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If Fuji comes out with a 23/24mm f/1.4 (f/1 preferably to equal 35L) I am buying one, along with an X-Pro 1 obviously. FINAL DECISION. Don't know where I'd get the money from though.

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