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Just get 135L if you are doing outdoor portraits. It is a lot more impressive than the 85 1.8, i tested out the 135L last night and compared it to a 85 1.8 on a 5D3 and the 85 just doesnt keep up
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Actually, if you're gonna spend some money on a 85mm or higher macro, I'm inclined to agree. I can't honestly remember the last time I actually shot with my 85 f/1.8 (probably around the time that I picked it up from Reaper to be honest).

135L is so nice, but if it's too long then I'd probably go Sigma 85 f/1.4 > Canon 85 f/1.8..
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Bronica's are like disposable MF cameras. tongue.gif

Ha. I have the original Pentax 645, and it's the same way. Mine broke a while back and I just bought another for like $90. The lenses are good at least. Wish I could say the same for the bodies. What were they thinking making a medium format slr without switchable backs? And everything is electronic. Gahhh....
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Bronica's are like disposable MF cameras. tongue.gif

Ha. I have the original Pentax 645, and it's the same way. Mine broke a while back and I just bought another for like $90. The lenses are good at least. Wish I could say the same for the bodies. What were they thinking making a medium format slr without switchable backs? And everything is electronic. Gahhh....

lol. thats what i think i like about this bronica. if something breaks i dont have to replace the entire thing. unless the whole thing breaks, which is doubtful because i am pretty careful and dont drop or throw my stuff around. granted its not the fanciest of MF cameras, im still happy with it tongue.gif
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Just get 135L if you are doing outdoor portraits. It is a lot more impressive than the 85 1.8, i tested out the 135L last night and compared it to a 85 1.8 on a 5D3 and the 85 just doesn't keep up

The 135L is 3X the cost of the 85 2.8. I'd actually rather have the 200 2.8 than the 135F2L just because it has a longer focal length and I could use it on a bipod (wouldn't need IS). 85mm will be easier to shoot on crop too due to it not being as long and there may be cases where 135mm or longer is not possible.

85 1.8 is significantly better than 50 1.8/1.4 and in general for portraiture use from what I've seen/read so I'm going to go with that and when I eventually have the money get the 200mm 2.8 and use that when I have the room as I love the compression you can get at 200mm.

Trust me I'd love to have the 135F2L and someday I'm sure I'll have it but right now it's out of my price league.

I think that I can probably shoot everything that I need to shoot now with a trio of 35mm f2, 50 1.8, 85 1.8, and the kit lens when needed for ultra wide stuff from say 18-24mm. Eventually I really want to get the 200 f2.8L prime though.
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lol you really should test stuff instead of basing your decision on a lens from stuff you read and see online. thats a great way to at least find out what your options are. I would never spend that kind of money without actually testing a lens under my normal shooting conditions. other peoples experiences are not the same as your own. you may see and read the 200 2.8 as a great lens but until you test it out you really dont know how it works for you. you only know how it works for everyone else.

also 200 f1.8L or go home tongue.gif (aka go big or go home in case you cant tell...)
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lol you really should test stuff instead of basing your decision on a lens from stuff you read and see online. thats a great way to at least find out what your options are. I would never spend that kind of money without actually testing a lens under my normal shooting conditions. other peoples experiences are not the same as your own. you may see and read the 200 2.8 as a great lens but until you test it out you really dont know how it works for you. you only know how it works for everyone else.
also 200 f1.8L or go home tongue.gif (aka go big or go home in case you cant tell...)

smile.gif I understand I just can't afford to put out the money to test out these lenses. I'm thinking about taking a trip up to BHPhoto when I have the money to go FF though. But for now I'm just going to have to go with the well regarded primes and my common sense. I loved my 50 1.8 II so I already know that I'll love that lens and I don't see the point in spending $300 on the 1.4 version.

85mm would be nice just because it compresses more than the 50 and has better bokeh/quality and works as a medium telephoto on crop.

When I have the money to get a 200mm f 2.8/full frame I'm going to take a trip up to BH photo and test out lenses and body's.
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i was looking to try and get into medium format photography, on a budget. can anyone recommend a goodish (ie not absolutely horrible) camera?


tldr
what is the cheapest medium format camera (and lens) that wont fall apart after its second use?
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i was looking to try and get into medium format photography, on a budget. can anyone recommend a goodish (ie not absolutely horrible) camera?
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what is the cheapest medium format camera (and lens) that wont fall apart after its second use?

Well cheapest, that don't suck, would be Bronica, Mamiya 645 and Pentax 6x7. Anything cheaper is garbage and you'll get better results in terms of IQ with good 35mm gear.
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