Originally Posted by MistaBernie
so you'll be doing the guys getting ready and maybe some formals of the guys alone after they're ready? Cool, good to know.
The idea is to try to keep things natural. Introduce yourself when you show up, let them know that you're gonna snap some shots while they're getting ready (basically, tell them they can be dressed, but not to have vests/jewelry/ties on before you get there). If they have younger guys (little kids) that require help getting ready those shots are usually gold -- one of my fav's my second shooter took at a wedding we shot this summer was a 9 y/o straightening a 7 y/o's bowtie. Don't be super snap happy but try not to miss a whole lot.
Focus a little on the groom / best man / anyone that's family of the group of guys (father is sometimes there, etc). The 85 should get you close without too much issue, but if you're shooting on a crop the 30 might actually be okay for this too. You don't really want to be in the way.
After the group is ready, find someplace nice to do some formals of just the guys. Make sure to get groom / best man and any combinations of the above (singles with the groom, whole group, etc).
It seems like a lot to think about, but if you have a plan and are confident, you'll stay grounded. The time flies, so having that plan is definitely helpful too. Just be sure to keep an eye on your time, etc.
what he said.....
but if you are going to shoot prep i think 85 and 70-200 are too long. During my last weddings I mostly used a 16-35 and 24-70 (i shot mostly long end so the 85 would work) on FF while shooting prep. while the actual ceremony i shot 16-35 and 70-200 on FF. I was shooting primary so it might not matter to you but having two strobed bodies with a wide/tele attached definitely helped since you dont want to fumble around changing lenses.
if you are the 3rd you really want to be as far away from the front as possible because there is so many people up close to the bride/groom during the ceremony (2 photogs, 2 videographers, etc).
and finally GO TO THE LOCATION
the day/week before at around the same time as the shoot, you will get huge insights on how the lighting is and ideas on how you might shoot the actual event.