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Originally Posted by Conspiracy View Post

Scratches on the front element have almost zero impact on image quality unless you point the lens directly at a light source and even then it takes a nice crack in the glass to get flares. Even lenses with cracked front elements still can take a decent image. That being said its not smart to just totally abuse your lens lol wink.gif

I was telling that story more to demonstrate how little we care for that lens wink.gif

@sub50hz: You're right that the 35mm is more useful on DX. Me, I'd rather back a few feet back to fill the frame and later be able to swap it on to a FX camera. I often just slap on the 18-55 if I need to go wider then my 50mm and I'm not worried about sharpness.
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How was the picture crappy?

If you're going to sling mud, at least back up your statements. wink.gif

Not trying to sling mud.

Since you asked, its underexposed badly and the white balance is way off for starters.

You don't have anything in the right side of the histogram, well there's something but not much.
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Originally Posted by S3ason View Post

Me, I'd rather back a few feet back to fill the frame

It doesn't work that way. Given the same framing, the perspective will not be the same as what the 35 "sees". Lenses are about perspective, and primes have somehow led the internet to believe that "foot-zooming" is the solution to using wider or longer focal lengths, which is not at all the case.
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You're absolutely right about that, but the difference in perspective is not really that perceptible when comparing 35 vs 50mm. If you were to compare the 35mm to something like a 100mm, the perspective would be completely different. There is definitely a difference in perspective, but not enough to justify buying one over the other in my opinion.

http://www.btobey.com/nikon/images/35mm-18-vs-50mm-18-g-3.jpg

Anyways, this is all my opinion on the difference. He might find he prefers the 35mm like most people. I just wanted him to see that there is more to consider than different focal lengths.

Edit: not sure if that photo was shot with full frame or not so I'm not sure if it actually helps my argument...
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You're absolutely right about that, but the difference in perspective is not really that perceptible when comparing 35 vs 50mm. If you were to compare the 35mm to something like a 100mm, the perspective would be completely different. There is definitely a difference in perspective, but not enough to justify buying one over the other in my opinion.

http://www.btobey.com/nikon/images/35mm-18-vs-50mm-18-g-3.jpg

Anyways, this is all my opinion on the difference. He might find he prefers the 35mm like most people. I just wanted him to see that there is more to consider than different focal lengths.

Edit: not sure if that photo was shot with full frame or not so I'm not sure if it actually helps my argument...

there is a pretty good different between 35mm and 50mm. not sure how you are comparing them. i personally have used both focal lengths on FF and crop cameras and can tell the difference on both types of sensor.

35mm on crop gives a very pleasing FOV. 35mm on FF is nice and semi wide without being really wide. 35mm on crop is similar in FOV to 50mm on FF. 50mm on FF is one of the most popular general use focal lengths and has been for years.

also comparing the two focal lengths on something close up like that such as a flower is pointless unless you take pictures of flowers on a table only and you photograph nothing else but that
Edited by Conspiracy - 5/13/13 at 8:13pm
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Not sure if this is posted here yet, but for you Nikon guys:

http://digicamcontrol.com/

Free, open-source, allows control of most camera settings and functions. Canon already had this kind of software, but this does one better by integrating focus stacking and motion detection. Some Canon cameras are partially supported as well.

@Conspiracy: I'm not saying there is no difference, the science is pretty clear there. My last post was just considering the case where you back up to get similar framing.
Edited by S3ason - 5/13/13 at 8:18pm
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Not sure if this is posted here yet, but for you Nikon guys:

http://digicamcontrol.com/

Free, open-source, allows control of most camera settings and functions. Canon already had this kind of software, but this does one better by integrating focus stacking and motion detection. Some Canon cameras are partially supported as well.

@Conspiracy: I'm not saying there is no difference, the science is pretty clear there. My last post was just considering the case where you back up to get similar framing.

how comfortable are you when using the 50/1.8 on apc? if you can just pick up the camera and know exactly what the frame looks like then the 50/1.8 is perfect for you.

but most people picks up a 50 on apsc and have to take a few steps back before shooting....
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There was a learning curve to it for sure, the 35mm is definitely a more natural field of view. In fact, I use the 35mm more often then I do the 50mm, which I realize goes against my argument. But, if I had to go back and only buy one lens, I would get the 50mm because I could use it when I upgrade to full frame in a year or two. I don't do a lot of "decisive moment" shooting and having to back up further hasn't really caused a problem for me either.
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There was a learning curve to it for sure, the 35mm is definitely a more natural field of view. In fact, I use the 35mm more often then I do the 50mm, which I realize goes against my argument. But, if I had to go back and only buy one lens, I would get the 50mm because I could use it when I upgrade to full frame in a year or two. I don't do a lot of "decisive moment" shooting and having to back up further hasn't really caused a problem for me either.

well if fullframe is your upgrade path than the 35/1.4 is the lens to get....

or alternatively, buy the 35/1.8 now. when you move too full frame splurge and spend extra 100 dollar for a 50/1.8. assuming you are using nikon (which you should be since only sony and nikon have a 35/1.8 and fullframe), you can turn off DX mode and shoot the 35/1.8, crop some of the corners.
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I really should stop spending money.
Anyhow - kit for NZ is now complete, now to wait till July 1st.
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