Originally Posted by Sean Webster
One thing I like to do is under promise and over deliver with my clients. Usually things end up way better that way rather than vice versa.
well travel isn't important, as the shoot is at my home town,and its over easter weekend and i'll be there for family, so that does not count in my book ( its a tiny cow town )Set up isn't much for me etiher, since nearly everything fits into my bag, and at most I'll be carrying a flash stand if I buy one before then and a tripod if I need it ) Basically just make sure I have fresh batteries, clean memory cards, and everything is clean and packed up.
I's still figure in like $10 towards your fixed price for that. You don't want to just be doing it at a loss. You want to maintain some sort of small profit or at least have the work help pay for your gear.
The way I would like to work is one fixed price for everything, travel, unlimted shoots and edits, a dedicated page on my website for access anywhere,
Well, you seem to know what you need to add up what expenses you have.
I'd say do this minimum for a shoot:
$10 for prep and travel and gear cost
$10 for your website expenses
$50 an hour shooting on location and edit time
So say a $70 for a 1hr -1.5hr shoot
$120 for a 2hr-3hr
That is for personal shoots with clients, not business/schools
For business/school do a $75-$100 an hour charge.
Trust me, these are cheap prices. Pro's charge more. Typically a pro goes of a day rate (at least here). Usually in my area that is anywhere from $1200-$2000 for an 8hr day.
basically every shot I think is good i'll edit, and they get copies of all the shots from the day good or bad ( along with the edited ones ) for them to do as they please. No watermarks, no pay for more edits, no release fee's etc.
I do that sometimes myself.
I just make sure i do a guarantee of a minimum of 10 so they clearly know what they are getting at the least. Client/Photographer clarity is a must. You should make a small contact too. I still havent made one myself, but the shoots I do arent that expensive or important to the point where I need one yet. I just make sure I get them to sign a model release tho so I can publish the images from the shoot as I please.
I don't like feeling like I am pressuring people to spend more for more, or having to limit what they get baised on their financial situation.
I agree. But, you should still clearly state what you are going to provide them as a base so they know what to expect. Then feel free to offer up the rest of the work to go along with that minimum base of service free.
I'm no where as skilled as you are, and it seems criminal for me charging what people who are way above me charge.
Eh, you're pretty good yourself. Better than some of the "pro's" around here lol.