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Originally Posted by Scott1541 View Post

I guess there is quite a difference in price tongue.gif

The 50 1.8D wasn't an option for me though, only the G, which is a lot closer in price to the 35.
Yeah, I'm lucky my 9 year old D50 has a motor in it.
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I would've grabbed the 35, but this is the 1.8D so it was only $114. Price to performance ratio is through the roof.


the 35mm is only $195 tho. Not really that big of a diff...

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why cant canon have cheap primes like nikon has?
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why cant canon have cheap primes like nikon has?

It depends on where you go. Here in ZA Nikon accessories are absurdly expensive because they're a bit less common that Canon. And Pentax is almost impossible to find.

Speaking of Pentax, I might buy a second hand MZ50, I just have to test it and get the price down because of that gear issue. I like my FTb-n but full manual without a flash isn't really for me.
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the 35mm is only $195 tho. Not really that big of a diff...
It is for a poor hs student! Lol I'm in such a small town that all the grocery store and lumber yard jobs are taken. I have summer work tho.
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why cant canon have cheap primes like nikon has?

The 50mm 1.8 is pretty cheap and can be had used for under $100. The 40 2.8 is really good and can be had for about $125 used.
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Originally Posted by Jixr View Post

why cant canon have cheap primes like nikon has?

Ya they are pretty cheap, so cheap I bought both the 50 1.8 and the 35 1.8. Love using both back and forth.
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Just wanted to say thanks to Sean for sharing the pricing tips & info. That helps a lot for future reference if I ever get good enough that people ask for that kind of thing. Definitely NOT there yet, though I am shooting a charity golf tournament in May (for free, I'm a board member at the organization; people have seen my photos and asked me to shoot it).

I fear not having a HSS flash for fill though. Probable visors + mid-afternoon golf = shadowed faces. Using the on-camera flash a) won't go very far and b) stops at 1/250, so all shots with it will be blown out. Unfortunately I'm not sure where I'll find $125 before mid-may. hmmsmiley02.gif
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One thing I like to do is under promise and over deliver with my clients. Usually things end up way better that way rather than vice versa. biggrin.gif
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well travel isn't important, as the shoot is at my home town,and its over easter weekend and i'll be there for family, so that does not count in my book ( its a tiny cow town )Set up isn't much for me etiher, since nearly everything fits into my bag, and at most I'll be carrying a flash stand if I buy one before then and a tripod if I need it ) Basically just make sure I have fresh batteries, clean memory cards, and everything is clean and packed up.


I's still figure in like $10 towards your fixed price for that. You don't want to just be doing it at a loss. You want to maintain some sort of small profit or at least have the work help pay for your gear.
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The way I would like to work is one fixed price for everything, travel, unlimted shoots and edits, a dedicated page on my website for access anywhere,
Well, you seem to know what you need to add up what expenses you have.

I'd say do this minimum for a shoot:
$10 for prep and travel and gear cost
$10 for your website expenses
$50 an hour shooting on location and edit time

So say a $70 for a 1hr -1.5hr shoot
$120 for a 2hr-3hr
etc

That is for personal shoots with clients, not business/schools

For business/school do a $75-$100 an hour charge.

Trust me, these are cheap prices. Pro's charge more. Typically a pro goes of a day rate (at least here). Usually in my area that is anywhere from $1200-$2000 for an 8hr day.
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basically every shot I think is good i'll edit, and they get copies of all the shots from the day good or bad ( along with the edited ones ) for them to do as they please. No watermarks, no pay for more edits, no release fee's etc.
I do that sometimes myself. smile.gif I just make sure i do a guarantee of a minimum of 10 so they clearly know what they are getting at the least. Client/Photographer clarity is a must. You should make a small contact too. I still havent made one myself, but the shoots I do arent that expensive or important to the point where I need one yet. I just make sure I get them to sign a model release tho so I can publish the images from the shoot as I please.
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I don't like feeling like I am pressuring people to spend more for more, or having to limit what they get baised on their financial situation.
I agree. But, you should still clearly state what you are going to provide them as a base so they know what to expect. Then feel free to offer up the rest of the work to go along with that minimum base of service free.
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I'm no where as skilled as you are, and it seems criminal for me charging what people who are way above me charge.
Eh, you're pretty good yourself. Better than some of the "pro's" around here lol.

This is pretty solid.

I usually do lots of shoot for friends and I do those for free for fun. Regular people i meet or get referred to me get charged about $50/hour depending on how intense the shoot it as well as reimbursement for any gear that might be rented. My business/corporate clients are charged a minimum $250/day depending on how intense the shoot is but usually never goes much higher than $750/day including rental fees. On occasion a business shoot will invoice out to $200 if its a really short notice and easy shoot
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afaik this one has wireless ETTL but is only manual ON-CAM

check the YN 568EX IIfor on cam ETTL & HSS

or the 565EX for about the same price of the 500EX

Sorry, missed this post previously. I'm relatively certain that is incorrect. TTL is a feature-add, but does not take away the ability for manual controls off-camera. That wouldn't make any sense and would require the flash to intentionally disable the controls on the back when operated off-camera.
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