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Don't sweat it, people separate camera kits all the time, there is no issue.
Camera & Kit lens, each have a separate #s/n and are dealt with as different items @ service.

Awesome. I'm about to sell the kit lens right now. Thanks! biggrin.gif
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How will the Sigma 2.0x Teleconverter APO work with Sigma 150-500mm APO?

I read in this review that it had compatibility problems with other brands than Sigma and that the clarity of the image would be 25-30% worse than without the Teleconverter mounted (this was the review: https://photographylife.com/reviews/sigma-2-0x-teleconverter). I can manage to pick up the Sigma 150-500mm used for about 500 USD (pre-owned) and I will probably be able to pick up the Teleconverter for another 275 USD (new).

For long shots (like I have been doing with the 70-300mm I need a little bit more to go on), the 150-500mm probably will be the perfect zoom for me, with the Teleconverter I would have no problem in really long shots either. The compromise is buying the Tamron 150-600mm brand new, because I cannot manage to find it used in Norway, import is not an option either ... it is still ~1500 USD which is almost double of what I have to pay for the Sigma 150-500mm with the Teleconverter ... I have yet to read/see some reviews of the Sigma 150-500mm lens (and the Teleconverter), but at the pricetag of the 150-600mm it does not sound like it is worth it to me at this point and in this case where they are pretty much impossible to find pre-owned is not making the case any better.

What do you guys think?
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The Sigma 150-500 is a relatively "slow" lens, much like the tamron 170-600, with both lenses maxing out aperture at f/6.3.
This is already putting most AF camera systems to a tough position as it is close to the "darkest" those can tolerate for reliable AF speed & accuracy.

Adding a teleconverter, will result in further light loss: 1.4x TCs lose -1EV extra stop, (making them around f/9), and a 2x would result to -2 EV stops, effectively making it f/11+.
Almost no camera would be able to AF with such a lens combo, even if the TC is mechanically compatible with the lens (i.e. the TC's elements have room to go in and not collide with the rear element of the lens).

The TCs are suggested to be used with lenses f/4 or faster for the above reason.

Traditionally those lenses are not amazing performers to begin with, and adding a TC will probably lead to diminishing returns.

Both of those lenses on a crop body are equiv. to insanely long FOV. Unless you are after astrophotography, you would be better of with any of the above on a cropped body without any TC.
For astrophotography, although you could work with stacked TCs and long tele-zooms for that occasional moon or eclipse shot, you should start looking into more specialized tools.

If you are after wildlife, there is little chance that you would be able to handhold aim and shoot sharp pics with a 500/600mm + TC combo anyways, even if your AF would work (good luck MFing too).

Your best bet is camo/hide, patience and spending lots of time in the field. That's how 90+ % of pro's do it, rarely having longer than 500mm lenses.
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reviews! im in need of a decent backpack

The SO got me one of these (the black version) for Christmas. It's not a massive, but can comfortably fit my entire kit (1 body, 4 lenses and all accessories) with a fair amount of room for more. It's more of a travel pack than a hardcore gear bag, but plenty of nice little extras.

Kata minibee:
http://www.kata-bags.com/minibee-111-ul-backpack-lg

And I see it comes in a pro version, now under the Manfrotto brand:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1049377-REG/manfrotto_mb_pl_mb_120_minibee_120_pro_light_backpack.html
post #27925 of 29551
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Originally Posted by pcfoo View Post

The Sigma 150-500 is a relatively "slow" lens, much like the tamron 170-600, with both lenses maxing out aperture at f/6.3.
This is already putting most AF camera systems to a tough position as it is close to the "darkest" those can tolerate for reliable AF speed & accuracy.

Adding a teleconverter, will result in further light loss: 1.4x TCs lose -1EV extra stop, (making them around f/9), and a 2x would result to -2 EV stops, effectively making it f/11+.
Almost no camera would be able to AF with such a lens combo, even if the TC is mechanically compatible with the lens (i.e. the TC's elements have room to go in and not collide with the rear element of the lens).

The TCs are suggested to be used with lenses f/4 or faster for the above reason.

Traditionally those lenses are not amazing performers to begin with, and adding a TC will probably lead to diminishing returns.

Both of those lenses on a crop body are equiv. to insanely long FOV. Unless you are after astrophotography, you would be better of with any of the above on a cropped body without any TC.
For astrophotography, although you could work with stacked TCs and long tele-zooms for that occasional moon or eclipse shot, you should start looking into more specialized tools.

If you are after wildlife, there is little chance that you would be able to handhold aim and shoot sharp pics with a 500/600mm + TC combo anyways, even if your AF would work (good luck MFing too).

Your best bet is camo/hide, patience and spending lots of time in the field. That's how 90+ % of pro's do it, rarely having longer than 500mm lenses.

Yes, I understand. For most situations the Sigma 150-500mm would be enough anyways ... yes, I read about the lightning too at the review I posted in my last post, it seemed that they could not zoom in max with a 100-400mm lens either, so it would not have been optimal for the 150-500mm either way.
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and the 135L just isnt long enough. i need the new 400L DO for super light ultra tele awesomeness. i have been trying and failing to get a shot of this dude by the lake at work. i can get as close as maybe 30 feet before i totally spook him. looks like i need to keep my 1.4X extender at work so i can use it with the 70-200 f2.8 in the office in hopes of getting this guy. ive never seen him fly unless its flying away because i scare him. hes always just chilling walking around like the gangster of the lake. i will get a good shot eventually




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and the 135L just isnt long enough. i need the new 400L DO for super light ultra tele awesomeness. i have been trying and failing to get a shot of this dude by the lake at work. i can get as close as maybe 30 feet before i totally spook him. looks like i need to keep my 1.4X extender at work so i can use it with the 70-200 f2.8 in the office in hopes of getting this guy. ive never seen him fly unless its flying away because i scare him. hes always just chilling walking around like the gangster of the lake. i will get a good shot eventually

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and the 135L just isnt long enough. i need the new 400L DO for super light ultra tele awesomeness. i have been trying and failing to get a shot of this dude by the lake at work. i can get as close as maybe 30 feet before i totally spook him. looks like i need to keep my 1.4X extender at work so i can use it with the 70-200 f2.8 in the office in hopes of getting this guy. ive never seen him fly unless its flying away because i scare him. hes always just chilling walking around like the gangster of the lake. i will get a good shot eventually

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Has anyone managed to get hold of the Yongnuo 50mm nifty fifty clone yet? Still eagerly anticipating the delivery of mine, Amazon said delivery est. 8th - 28th Jan frown.gif
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