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My mate at uni makes me jealous with all of his gear, even though its canon.

He's gone from a 60D to a 5DIII to a 1D X in the space of about a year, and has got so much nice glass over the year too. It baffles me that someone who's only 20 has (to my knowledge, he probably has more) a 1D X, 300mm f4L, sigma 120-300 2.8, 24-70 2.8L, 16-35 2.8L, 70-200 2.8 (sigma for now, but upgrading soon), sigma 8mm, and is also buying a 50 1.2L soon as well rolleyes.gif

He's doing better than me, but hey, I can't complain, photography has paid for my trip to amsterdam with friends in september, a few gear upgrades, and my car.

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What are you studying? I am a graduate student in Nuclear Engineering. Photography is a hobby that I got into after years of making a living as a radiographer, many parallels.

I don't need a 1Dx. Now if one presented itself at the right price then I probably wouldn't be able to resist.

I'm studying computer science tongue.gif In my 3rd year now so its work work work, It'll all be over before I know it though

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Mummy and Daddy most likely

I'm not sure, he does work quite a lot but the amount of stuff he has is still pretty crazy even for that. One thing I can laugh about though is he keeps getting pulled over by the police, they must think he's a drug dealer as not many students drive a 10 year old BMW.
     
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I'm studying computer science tongue.gif In my 3rd year now so its work work work, It'll all be over before I know it though
I'm not sure, he does work quite a lot but the amount of stuff he has is still pretty crazy even for that. One thing I can laugh about though is he keeps getting pulled over by the police, they must think he's a drug dealer as not many students drive a 10 year old BMW.

My BMWs are 25, 25, and 29 years old.
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My photo gear worth more than my 10yo tC too rolleyes.gif

Its all about priorities, having parents paying for part or all of what you are doing, or not.

I know people that live with their parents in their mid 30s, "cause cannot afford their own place" (probably don't like cooking or laundry either), but drive $35 ~ $45K cars... and I spend less on photogear a year than many of my friends spend on starbucks coffee and/or smoking.

Still I would not get the 1DX (or the upcoming mark II, perhaps your friend should upgrade)... I have no need for a press camera atm, or the time for wildlife shooting as much as I would liked to. Moreover, I would probably prefer to go the 7D2 route for that, as you can never have enough reach.

Now, a 5DS/R would not be bad biggrin.gif

Already seen some in the $2300 range used, yet mint. At this point ALL of my equipment (cameras & lenses) are bought second hand and I haven't had a single issue.
I have said it before, and people here disagreed, but I will repeat it for what its worth:

If you have the time to wait and know where to look, you can get used yet 9/10 or better condition lenses & bodies that has been through the 1st depreciation shock, use it and if you don't like it or you out-grew it, just sell it again for a similarly small loss. You won't be looking at a bigger loss than renting the same equipment for 1-2 weekends (after shipping costs etc).

Over the last year quite a few stuff came and went:

EF 50 1.4 - bought used 1.5 year ago, sold for same price - $15 P/P.
Sigma 50A - bought used, kept for 3 weeks, sold for same price after p/p.
EF 24-70L 2.8 I - bought used 9.5/10, used for 10 months, sold for same money -$10 locally.
EF 17-40L - bought used, used for 2 trips over a month, sold with small profit even after amazon commission & P/P.
EOS M + 22mm - bought used $250, sold $220 after pp after 1.5y
EF-M 18-55 STM - bought used $65 ebay, sold $90 in Amazon (deduct commission)
Yada-yada-yada.

All of my current lenses can be sold within a couple of weeks for pretty much 90% or more of what I've paid for them.
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My photo gear worth more than my 10yo tC too rolleyes.gif

Its all about priorities, having parents paying for part or all of what you are doing, or not.

I know people that live with their parents in their mid 30s, "cause cannot afford their own place" (probably don't like cooking or laundry either), but drive $35 ~ $45K cars... and I spend less on photogear a year than many of my friends spend on starbucks coffee and/or smoking.

Still I would not get the 1DX (or the upcoming mark II, perhaps your friend should upgrade)... I have no need for a press camera atm, or the time for wildlife shooting as much as I would liked to. Moreover, I would probably prefer to go the 7D2 route for that, as you can never have enough reach.

Now, a 5DS/R would not be bad biggrin.gif

Already seen some in the $2300 range used, yet mint. At this point ALL of my equipment (cameras & lenses) are bought second hand and I haven't had a single issue.
I have said it before, and people here disagreed, but I will repeat it for what its worth:

If you have the time to wait and know where to look, you can get used yet 9/10 or better condition lenses & bodies that has been through the 1st depreciation shock, use it and if you don't like it or you out-grew it, just sell it again for a similarly small loss. You won't be looking at a bigger loss than renting the same equipment for 1-2 weekends (after shipping costs etc).

Over the last year quite a few stuff came and went:

EF 50 1.4 - bought used 1.5 year ago, sold for same price - $15 P/P.
Sigma 50A - bought used, kept for 3 weeks, sold for same price after p/p.
EF 24-70L 2.8 I - bought used 9.5/10, used for 10 months, sold for same money -$10 locally.
EF 17-40L - bought used, used for 2 trips over a month, sold with small profit even after amazon commission & P/P.
EOS M + 22mm - bought used $250, sold $220 after pp after 1.5y
EF-M 18-55 STM - bought used $65 ebay, sold $90 in Amazon (deduct commission)
Yada-yada-yada.

All of my current lenses can be sold within a couple of weeks for pretty much 90% or more of what I've paid for them.

Would you mind telling us what you paid for your gear? I am curious about what people consider good deals. Particularly the 24-70L.
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Bought my 24-70L (mark 1), mint, boxed, last production year for $880. Sold it for $870. Both transactions where made through CL locally, in OC CA.
That was 2014 and was sold in early 2015, so prices do go down for out of production lenses, and ofc condition might vary the price.

Currently 24-70Ls still do sell for $900-925 lacking wear marks etc, you can find them as low as 650-700ish with obvious wear and average $800-850.

It was replaced by a 24-70L II, which I've paid for $1400 for. Again, I won't have issues selling this lens for similar money right now, but even if I was to sell it for $1250-1300 (which would be a steal), that would be the non-refundable difference for renting that same 24-70 II for 10-15 days or so. Remember that most rental vendors, ask you to prepay insured return shipping that would be ~$25 for a 24-70 II. For a lens that served me so well for that much time, $100-150 are not much to pay - when people are willing and do pay that for renting it for 1-2 weeks.

So, for mainstream "expensive" photo gear, I am relatively confident that if I have the time to research and get a feel for the market, I can buy whatever I want used, and then resell it for roughly the same money, or lose no more than I would pay for renting it for the same amount of time through lensrentals.com, samy's etc.

I was entertaining the idea of renting a 5DSR for a 18 day trip to HK & Thailand (as a backup, cause I so out-grew the 6D tongue.gif, GAS is GAS) but it boils down - again - being cheaper or the same to actually buy it used, and resell if you don't want to keep it. What holds me back is that I don't want to be tempted to keep it (and I really don't need a $3000 body), plus the dream that I might find better deals in HK tongue.gif

Oh, and I was wrong on the $2,300, that price was actually quoted for a low mileage, US model 5DS, not the R, but that's again an amazing price for the amount of time those cameras have been out. A7R II early adopters are also off-loading them for decent savings lately.

You always barter, within reason and always being polite. Worst case, you will get a No.
Best case, a yes, usually a counter offer.
You want to hunt for local deals (gives you leverage to ask for a reasonable estimated P/P to be deducted, Paypal fees to be deducted, etc etc).
Yes, it is not as easy as Lensrentals, the amazon used market etc, but I had more luck getting deals through forum buy & sell ads and CL than ebay for example.
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Bought my 24-70L (mark 1), mint, boxed, last production year for $880. Sold it for $870. Both transactions where made through CL locally, in OC CA.
That was 2014 and was sold in early 2015, so prices do go down for out of production lenses, and ofc condition might vary the price.

Currently 24-70Ls still do sell for $900-925 lacking wear marks etc, you can find them as low as 650-700ish with obvious wear and average $800-850.

It was replaced by a 24-70L II, which I've paid for $1400 for. Again, I won't have issues selling this lens for similar money right now, but even if I was to sell it for $1250-1300 (which would be a steal), that would be the non-refundable difference for renting that same 24-70 II for 10-15 days or so. Remember that most rental vendors, ask you to prepay insured return shipping that would be ~$25 for a 24-70 II. For a lens that served me so well for that much time, $100-150 are not much to pay - when people are willing and do pay that for renting it for 1-2 weeks.

So, for mainstream "expensive" photo gear, I am relatively confident that if I have the time to research and get a feel for the market, I can buy whatever I want used, and then resell it for roughly the same money, or lose no more than I would pay for renting it for the same amount of time through lensrentals.com, samy's etc.

I was entertaining the idea of renting a 5DSR for a 18 day trip to HK & Thailand (as a backup, cause I so out-grew the 6D tongue.gif, GAS is GAS) but it boils down - again - being cheaper or the same to actually buy it used, and resell if you don't want to keep it. What holds me back is that I don't want to be tempted to keep it (and I really don't need a $3000 body), plus the dream that I might find better deals in HK tongue.gif

Oh, and I was wrong on the $2,300, that price was actually quoted for a low mileage, US model 5DS, not the R, but that's again an amazing price for the amount of time those cameras have been out. A7R II early adopters are also off-loading them for decent savings lately.

You always barter, within reason and always being polite. Worst case, you will get a No.
Best case, a yes, usually a counter offer.
You want to hunt for local deals (gives you leverage to ask for a reasonable estimated P/P to be deducted, Paypal fees to be deducted, etc etc).
Yes, it is not as easy as Lensrentals, the amazon used market etc, but I had more luck getting deals through forum buy & sell ads and CL than ebay for example.

Thank you, I have considered trying out a subscription to Canon Professional services. For $100/year I can evaluate gear and get special cleanings and other services.
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Well looking to get me some more lenses. Looking to get a prime lens or two since I don't have any. What you all would advise I nab?

My camera is a D90. I mostly leave the 18-300mm lens on it, but want to play around with some prime lenses.

This one got my attention atm.

http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-AF-S-NIKKOR-Focus-Cameras/dp/B001S2PPT0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1453750660&sr=8-1&keywords=nikon+prime+lense

Also looking to get a good cleaning kit for the camera.
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Well looking to get me some more lenses. Looking to get a prime lens or two since I don't have any. What you all would advise I nab?

My camera is a D90. I mostly leave the 18-300mm lens on it, but want to play around with some prime lenses.

This one got my attention atm.

http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-AF-S-NIKKOR-Focus-Cameras/dp/B001S2PPT0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1453750660&sr=8-1&keywords=nikon+prime+lense

Also looking to get a good cleaning kit for the camera.

The 35 is a good one if you enjoy using that focal length. I had it for a bit when I had my D7000 and didn't use it much because I wasn't a fan of that focal length. I don't think Nikon has one at a good price point but I prefer 24mm on apsc. Another safe bet is 50mm for portraits on apsc if you do that much.
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The 35mm 1.8 DX is very good all rounder. Primes are challenging and not for everyone.

Its part of the deal tho: forces you to work with limitations and perhaps grow better. Doesn't mean its guaranteed to be so.

Still, quality wise, most nikkor primes will sweep the floor with a superzoom. If you are happy with your 18-300, the 35 or 50 1.8 will blow you away at similar apertures.

The 50 1.8 is great but a bit too long for my taste. I agree that the 24-30mm is ideal, but the 35 DX is the only "standard" option for DX nikon below or close to $200, so for a first prime works fine.
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