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What about that picture of the guys with a camera the size of a room... wish I could find it now, this isn't about the size of your john, and more like 50k for a complete base package.

Personally I want the FF35 Red, which will shoot S35 or quad 1080p and give you 6k at 100fps... wanna talk about through put that will put 4billion pixels to shame

Though the best deal would be Scarlet which "limits" you to 30fps 6k or 72fps bursts... to use only the S35 (~1.6 crop) section for film... plus some big-boy still specs

Apples and rotten oranges imho but fun to talk gadgets.

The 6x17 film negatives or sensors give you some serious panorama capabilities in one exposure... the Red would have a little over the number of photosensors as two human retinas put together.
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Well, although it doesn't have USM, the Canon EF 35mm f/2 is a damn sharp lens.
I have just enough to get the Canon 35mm f/2 and the Canon 100mm f/2.8 Macro, I wonder if getting those two would be the way to go. I have always wanted to try out macro photography, and that 100mm lens is a good portrait lens as well.

Or I could save some money and get the Kenko Extension tube set for my 50mm. To my understanding if I put a 50mm extension tube on the 50mm lens, it would be a magnification ratio of 1:1?
Edited by xlastshotx - 4/10/09 at 9:20pm
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Does anyone use only MF lenses?

If so, have you guys considered Zeiss ZF manual primes? Expensive, but above average mechanical constriction and phenomenal optics.
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I have just enough to get the Canon 35mm f/2 and the Canon 100mm f/2.8 Macro, I wonder if getting those two would be the way to go. I have always wanted to try out macro photography, and that 100mm lens is a good portrait lens as well.

Or I could save some money and get the Kenko Extension tube set for my 50mm. To my understanding if I put a 50mm extension tube on the 50mm lens, it would be a magnification ratio of 1:1?
It would be 1.15x magnification (1.15:1 I think, I understand the number and x format better). You have to know what the native magnification for a lens is first and then add the magnification gained by the tube (tube length divded by focal length of lens = magnification gain). For the 50mm f/1.8, it's something small like .15x, so with a 50mm of tubes added you gain 1x magnification for a total of 1.15x, which is more than 1:2 and almost 2:1.

I'd like to have that same set of Kenko tubes myself. With all of them stacked on my 60mm macro, I could get just over 2:1.

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Does anyone use only MF lenses?

If so, have you guys considered Zeiss ZF manual primes? Expensive, but above average mechanical constriction and phenomenal optics.
Well, I'd love to have a lens like this one just for fun:

Contax Tessar 45mm F2.8 AEJ Lens 45/2.8
Edited by GoneTomorrow - 4/10/09 at 10:40pm
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It would be 1.65x magnification (1.65:1 I think, I understand the number and x format better). You have to know what the native magnification for a lens is first and then add the magnification gained by the tube (tube length divded by focal length of lens = magnification gain). For the 50mm f/1.8, it's something small like .15x, so with a 50mm of tubes added you gain 1x magnification for a total of 1.65x, which is more than 1:2 and almost 2:1.

I'd like to have that same set of Kenko tubes myself. With all of them stacked on my 60mm macro, I could get just over 2:1.

hmm so would I be better off getting the extension tubes with the 50mm for $160 or just getting the 100mm macro for $400?

I was also wondering about reverse mounting another 50mm f1.8 onto my current 50mm f/1.8?
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hmm so would I be better off getting the extension tubes with the 50mm for $160 or just getting the 100mm macro for $400?

I was also wondering about reverse mounting another 50mm f1.8 onto my current 50mm f/1.8?
Did my math wrong back there, it would 1.15x not 1.65x. Magnification factors and ratios are so confusing.

Tubes would be cheaper, but the 100mm macro is one a hell of sharp lens. And don't rule out the EF-S 60mm either (just as sharp). The 100mm lets you get further away and still get 1:1, but shakes quite a bit needing a tripod/monopod more. The 60mm is easier to get hand held shots, but you have to get closer for 1:1. Plus the 60mm is $100 or so cheaper.

And I've never tried reverse mounting but I've seen some really amazing macros from such setups.
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Does anyone use only MF lenses?

If so, have you guys considered Zeiss ZF manual primes? Expensive, but above average mechanical constriction and phenomenal optics.
I use my Nikkor 24mm f/2.8 and 50mm f/2.0 the majority of the time I shoot.

All metal construction, hefty but compact and excellent optics. I bet you could take someone down with one too.. without breaking the lens

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Did my math wrong back there, it would 1.15x not 1.65x. Magnification factors and ratios are so confusing.

Tubes would be cheaper, but the 100mm macro is one a hell of sharp lens. And don't rule out the EF-S 60mm either (just as sharp). The 100mm lets you get further away and still get 1:1, but shakes quite a bit needing a tripod/monopod more. The 60mm is easier to get hand held shots, but you have to get closer for 1:1. Plus the 60mm is $100 or so cheaper.

And I've never tried reverse mounting but I've seen some really amazing macros from such setups.
You can reverse mount a single lens, or stack lenses. I've only stacked lenses so far. The level of detail can be amazing, but at the same time, it takes forever to get even one decent shot.





An example shot:


This was all before I got my primes, and I want to go back with those since I will be able to actually set an aperture.
Edited by Mootsfox - 4/10/09 at 11:07pm
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Well, I'd love to have a lens like this one just for fun:

Contax Tessar 45mm F2.8 AEJ Lens 45/2.8
Why a 45mm 2.8f?
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Here is a teaser from the R&D department over at Red. Again, really expensive stuff, though not at all from cinema standards. It is an ungraded 5k .jpg from their next CMOS sensor, which is slated to handle up to 100fps at full 5k RAW. It was taken with their new Pro Prime cinema 100mm at f1.7. Click on it for full screen, then again for 1:1.

(from www.reduser.net)


Edited by USlatin - 4/11/09 at 12:50am
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I use my Nikkor 24mm f/2.8 and 50mm f/2.0 the majority of the time I shoot.

All metal construction, hefty but compact and excellent optics. I bet you could take someone down with one too.. without breaking the lens



You can reverse mount a single lens, or stack lenses. I've only stacked lenses so far. The level of detail can be amazing, but at the same time, it takes forever to get even one decent shot.





An example shot:


This was all before I got my primes, and I want to go back with those since I will be able to actually set an aperture.
Yeah the DOF is incredibly shallow and it's hard to achieve a good focus!
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