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jeez I wish I had a awesome camera . I just got this Nikon CoolPix S210. Thing I hate the most of these cameras are you can't do the manual focus . Close up sucks
Well, the quality of the pictures doesn't seem too bad for a point and shoot, as I'm not noticing much in the way of high-ISO noise. You'll find that your camera will be able to auto-focus much better in brightly-lit situations. Also, the reason that the camera is having trouble focusing for "close-ups" (usually referred to as macros when the object is something relatively small or you're trying to get immense detail in the shot), is you probably need to enable macro mode on your camera. It's the little option that is represented by a flower on your camera. All the pictures I recently posted from flowers were taken with a relatively mid-grade P&S that just had macro mode enabled.

EDIT: Here's a little bit of a pictorial to point out how you can improve those shots.

This is assuming you know how to enable macro mode on your camera (when in doubt, RTFM).

First, we have an example of what happens when you leave the camera on full auto and try to take the macro. Often, the automatic flash fires, destroying the detail you were trying to achieve.



If you defeat the flash and leave it in some sort of auto mode, then the image comes out blurry as shutter speed has to decrease (on my camera, it goes from ~1/40 of a second to 4 full seconds). While some detail is visible, it's not terribly good looking.



If you don't have anything except auto or program modes (i.e. you have no manual mode), then this can get tricky to get detail. You can try to deflect/diffuse the built-in flash of your camera. First, I tried my hand, but that gave the image a reddish cast. Then, I just placed a white envelope in front of the flash, and the result was quite good.





The end result is not bad, but if I just wanted to get the LEDs on the laptop, I would need to change my methodology... This is when I flipped over to a full manual mode (often designated "M"). I set the aperture to f/3.5 (the fastest on my camera's lens), and then set shutter speed to 1/30 of a second (about the slowest I can still hand-hold the camera without blur). I disabled flash, and enabled macro mode (actually, I went to "super-macro" mode on my camera, which basically sets the focusing distance even closer, but isn't on every camera). Focused and... Voila!



So, basically you just need to play around with it, and eventually you should be able to get some decent shots. You certainly don't need a DSLR to get decent macro shots, although they do have their advantages in these situations...





Edited by laboitenoire - 6/8/09 at 7:01am
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I'm thinking about the 190XPROB and the 488RC2.

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http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...=272779&is=REG

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http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...=479927&is=REG

Any suggestions?

EDIT: I noticed my local camera shop has that package for $15 less than B&H and there is a $25 MIR for legs+head.
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Just did.

190XPROB legs, 488RC2 head, 055CCS 1/2 height center column (for table use). All for $20 less than Amazon, and I don't have to deal with shipping.

EDIT: Just realized I bought the wrong center column Back to the store tomorrow
Edited by Mootsfox - 6/8/09 at 3:25pm
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Well, the quality of the pictures doesn't seem too bad for a point and shoot, as I'm not noticing much in the way of high-ISO noise. You'll find that your camera will be able to auto-focus much better in brightly-lit situations. Also, the reason that the camera is having trouble focusing for "close-ups" (usually referred to as macros when the object is something relatively small or you're trying to get immense detail in the shot), is you probably need to enable macro mode on your camera. It's the little option that is represented by a flower on your camera. All the pictures I recently posted from flowers were taken with a relatively mid-grade P&S that just had macro mode enabled.

EDIT: Here's a little bit of a pictorial to point out how you can improve those shots.

This is assuming you know how to enable macro mode on your camera (when in doubt, RTFM).

First, we have an example of what happens when you leave the camera on full auto and try to take the macro. Often, the automatic flash fires, destroying the detail you were trying to achieve.



If you defeat the flash and leave it in some sort of auto mode, then the image comes out blurry as shutter speed has to decrease (on my camera, it goes from ~1/40 of a second to 4 full seconds). While some detail is visible, it's not terribly good looking.



If you don't have anything except auto or program modes (i.e. you have no manual mode), then this can get tricky to get detail. You can try to deflect/diffuse the built-in flash of your camera. First, I tried my hand, but that gave the image a reddish cast. Then, I just placed a white envelope in front of the flash, and the result was quite good.





The end result is not bad, but if I just wanted to get the LEDs on the laptop, I would need to change my methodology... This is when I flipped over to a full manual mode (often designated "M"). I set the aperture to f/3.5 (the fastest on my camera's lens), and then set shutter speed to 1/30 of a second (about the slowest I can still hand-hold the camera without blur). I disabled flash, and enabled macro mode (actually, I went to "super-macro" mode on my camera, which basically sets the focusing distance even closer, but isn't on every camera). Focused and... Voila!



So, basically you just need to play around with it, and eventually you should be able to get some decent shots. You certainly don't need a DSLR to get decent macro shots, although they do have their advantages in these situations...
Yeah macro mode is with the flower, it's always enabled for close up shots .

Here is one with flash off (Sorry it's dark, I turned down the Exposure down by mistake)




Here is one with flash covered. Shutter speed faster, ISO @ 64. 400 you start to see artifacts



Flash with ISO @ 200. Turned out much better with the flash covered





Edited by Unknownm - 6/8/09 at 4:32pm
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It's big and heavy but it sure makes perty pics.
Bokeh is awfully nice too.



JPEG out of camera, cropped in LR. Click for EXIF.
Nikon D3/24-70 F/2.8 G ED AF Nikkor.
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Yeah macro mode is with the flower, it's always enabled for close up shots .

Here is one with flash off (Sorry it's dark, I turned down the Exposure down by mistake)

Here is one with flash covered. Shutter speed faster, ISO @ 64. 400 you start to see artifacts

Flash with ISO @ 200. Turned out much better with the flash covered
Those look quite good.
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That's my setup and it rocks!
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Sony - Dyxum
Nikon - Nikon Cafe
Canon - Photography-on-the.net
nikonians.com is by far the "best" forum for nikon users.

Nikon really is pronounced "Knee-kon" but it is universally accepted to say "nayh-kon"
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Marin wants some fail?

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