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Took these the other day before school:







And again smaller for the lower rez crowd:

Decent composition!
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Took these today at the park, using only my zoom lens! Not bad for a non-macro lens. Criticisms?



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I like the lighting on the second.

Will post baby humming bird pics tomorrow.
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nice i know its the photographers eye that counts, but u can't say your beast camera had nothing to do with that awesome reflection.
It's not even an SLR... That is what it was to the EYE almost 0.0

But thanks! Both of you!


And I REALLY like your second one GoneTommorow
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I've just got about half way through processing some pictures taken yesterday, so I thought I'd post a few I've finished to help keep the thread fresh .

I went to walk the dog on the beach with my fiancée, so I took the FZ50 with me.

I managed to take 269 pictures that day (not all on the beach) which filled both my memory cards (4GB & 2GB). As usual I took several of the same shot each time I found something that looked like it might make a good photo. I must have taken around 80 unique shots, of which I've currently discarded about 64%.

I took about 100 or so shots today (not all unique) and a few look promising. I'll post one or two when I've got round to processing them.

Any DSLR lens advice (see my earlier post) would still be appreciated .

Thanks!

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I've seen a lot of people with Sigma and Tamron lenses. I've never used them, but from what I hear, they're decent. But, you get what you pay for. For example, many of Canon's lenses use ultra sonic motors and optical image stabilization (as do Nikon's), and from what I've seen, the third party lenses don't. You can get a Tamron or Sigma macro or prime lens for under $100, but a Canon might be $200 and up. I personally really like the ultra sonic motors that Canon and Nikon use, because they auto focus extremely fast, never any focus hunting even in low light. You seem to have enough budget to get decent lenses, so I wouldn't opt for third party lenses unless your budget won't allow it. Also, I haven't really looked much at Pentax or Olympus' lens offerings, so I can't comment on their quality.

I'm buying this lens next, and then I will have enough lenses to suit my needs. But that's what they all say I guess!
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Edited by ecoyd1 - 3/24/14 at 10:12am
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Here is another shot from last week when the mother was sitting on 2, raisin sized eggs.



Again, remote flash used from bottom right (This time not ducktaped to anything.)
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I've seen a lot of people with Sigma and Tamron lenses. I've never used them, but from what I hear, they're decent. But, you get what you pay for. For example, many of Canon's lenses use ultra sonic motors and optical image stabilization (as do Nikon's), and from what I've seen, the third party lenses don't. You can get a Tamron or Sigma macro or prime lens for under $100, but a Canon might be $200 and up. I personally really like the ultra sonic motors that Canon and Nikon use, because they auto focus extremely fast, never any focus hunting even in low light. You seem to have enough budget to get decent lenses, so I wouldn't opt for third party lenses unless your budget won't allow it. Also, I haven't really looked much at Pentax or Olympus' lens offerings, so I can't comment on their quality.

I'm buying this lens next, and then I will have enough lenses to suit my needs. But that's what they all say I guess!
Thanks for the advice. If you don't mind, I'd appreciate it if you'd answer a few (more) questions for me .

If a camera has image stabilisation in the body (like the K20D) does that negate the necessity for it to use lens based image stabilisation, or do you need both?

Do all DSLR lenses have motors (for focusing presumably) or do some not? If some don't how do they focus? Does the camera focus them (using auto-focus), or is it done manually?

Why is ultrasonic a good motor type for lenses? Is it because it reduces vibration, or is it because it focuses faster than non-ultrasonic, or both?

Isn't it best to get in-camera image stabilisation because:

1. You can use any lenses that fit, even if they don't have I.S. and still get stable shots?
2. Lenses without image stabilisation are generally cheaper than ones without, so the extra cost up-front to get I.S. in-camera (if there is any) is reaped back buy spending less on lenses?

Thanks for your help! I appreciate it!

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Here is another shot from last week when the mother was sitting on 2, raisin sized eggs.

Wow, that's a beautiful shot! Shame about the lens flare (if that's what it is) but you can probably just edit that out, no? Otherwise it's really nice. Love the colour, clarity and composition!

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Thanks for the advice. If you don't mind, I'd appreciate it if you'd answer a few (more) questions for me .

If a camera has image stabilisation in the body (like the K20D) does that negate the necessity for it to use lens based image stabilisation, or do you need both?

Do all DSLR lenses have motors (for focusing presumably) or do some not? If some don't how do they focus? Does the camera focus them (using auto-focus), or is it done manually?

Why is ultrasonic a good motor type for lenses? Is it because it reduces vibration, or is it because it focuses faster than non-ultrasonic, or both?

Isn't it best to get in-camera image stabilisation because:

1. You can use any lenses that fit, even if they don't have I.S. and still get stable shots?
2. Lenses without image stabilisation are generally cheaper than ones without, so the extra cost up-front to get I.S. in-camera (if there is any) is reaped back buy spending less on lenses?

Thanks for your help! I appreciate it!

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1. If the camera has stabilization, the lenses for that brand wont have stabilization. You only need it one: the body or the lens.

2. Most Lenses have motors, some dont. You have to check with the specifications on the specific lens to see if it does. Nikon is called AFS while Im not sure what Canon is called. Most modern lenses have them now, however.

3. Ultrasonic just means the motor is in the lens. Vibration reduction is completely separate.

4. Both of your points on stabilization are correct. However stabilization in camera vs lens is the same thing. Neither is better. Remember that neither Canon nor Nikon have in body stabilizers.




Edit: In that pic its not a lens flare, but overlapped bokeh. Its what happens when light sources are out of focus, they bleed into other parts of the image. I really don't feel like editing it but if anyone is up for it I can send you the full size pic.
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Thanks for the advice. If you don't mind, I'd appreciate it if you'd answer a few (more) questions for me .

If a camera has image stabilisation in the body (like the K20D) does that negate the necessity for it to use lens based image stabilisation, or do you need both?

Do all DSLR lenses have motors (for focusing presumably) or do some not? If some don't how do they focus? Does the camera focus them (using auto-focus), or is it done manually?

Why is ultrasonic a good motor type for lenses? Is it because it reduces vibration, or is it because it focuses faster than non-ultrasonic, or both?

Isn't it best to get in-camera image stabilisation because:

1. You can use any lenses that fit, even if they don't have I.S. and still get stable shots?
2. Lenses without image stabilisation are generally cheaper than ones without, so the extra cost up-front to get I.S. in-camera (if there is any) is reaped back buy spending less on lenses?

Thanks for your help! I appreciate it!

Highly-Annoyed
Most new DSLR lenses have AF motors in the lens and the in the body itself. The body AF motor is used when the lens doesn't have one (ii.e. if you're using an old film SLR lens). Since most new lenses do have AF, companies like Nikon leave the AF motor out of the body to cut costs, so older lenses would be manual focus only.

Yes, you know what you're talking about. Some DSLRs have image stabilization in the body itself, negating the need for a lens with the same feature. However, I'm not aware of any Nikon or Canon lenses that have this feature, so there must be some reason why they choose not to do that. Perhaps so they can ensure that their customers use their lenses if they want IS! Realistically, IS is only useful for lenses which have relatively small apertures. My 28-135mm has a aperture only at f/3.5 max (not that bad), so in lowlight or especially at high zoom, IS is very helpful. But my 50mm prime lens opens way up - f/1.4 which takes in so much light that IS isn't crucial, which is why Canon doesn't put IS on their primes. Many reviewers criticize Nikon and Canon for putting IS (VR as Nikon calls it) in their lenses thereby gouging their customers.

The USM is one feature that has universal acclaim. It focuses much, much faster. I could tell the difference easily from my non-USM kit lens. This is useful if you take action/sports shots and you need the speed that USM offers. The other advantage of USM is that it is quieter, but that's not much of an "advantage" really to me.
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