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Got to borrow my friends S5 IS, gonna have fun tomorrow
i have one its a good little camera!!
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400 f/2.8

just curious..............i googled that sweet lens.........i found a price tag.pleas tell me you didnt pay what google says its worth!!
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just curious..............i googled that sweet lens.........i found a price tag.pleas tell me you didnt pay what google says its worth!!
Quality *cough* and the Nikon tax *cough* comes at a price.
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On the topic of telephotos, I decided to have a look at some telephotos and teleconverters and I have a question, what are the negatives to owning a teleconverter?

I'm thinking maybe a Sigma 150mm 2.8 and Sigma 2x TC next year as it offers a cheap super tele option with macro capabilities.... maybe.
    
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Originally Posted by Marin View Post
Quality *cough* and the Nikon tax *cough* comes at a price.
Pays to be the best

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On the topic of telephotos, I decided to have a look at some telephotos and teleconverters and I have a question, what are the negatives to owning a teleconverter?

I'm thinking maybe a Sigma 150mm 2.8 and Sigma 2x TC next year as it offers a cheap super tele option with macro capabilities.... maybe.

They reduce the amount of light that hits the sensor. 1.4x -1 stop, 1.7x - 1.5 stop, 2.0x -2 stops. Maybe not a huge problem if you had a lens like Nuke's 400 f/2.8, but on a f/5.6, you would go to f/11 with a 2x converter.

They also reduce the quality of the lens in front of it. So unless you have multiple of thousands of dollars of glass in front of it, a 2x doesn't seem like a good idea.

If you're up for a read, check here: http://www.lensrentals.com/news/2009...converters-101


If you're looking for something with some reach on the (relative) cheap, the Sigma 50-500mm f/4 to f/6.3 is fairly well known as a good lens for the price (~$1,000). Nicknamed the "bigma": http://www.amazon.com/Sigma-50-500mm.../dp/B0009F3MPQ

Then of course, there's always this cannon:

Edited by Mootsfox - 7/25/09 at 5:09am
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Pays to be the best




They reduce the amount of light that hits the sensor. 1.4x -1 stop, 1.7x - 1.5 stop, 2.0x -2 stops. Maybe not a huge problem if you had a lens like Nuke's 400 f/2.8, but on a f/5.6, you would go to f/11 with a 2x converter.

They also reduce the quality of the lens in front of it. So unless you have multiple of thousands of dollars of glass in front of it, a 2x doesn't seem like a good idea.

If you're up for a read, check here: http://www.lensrentals.com/news/2009...converters-101


If you're looking for something with some reach on the (relative) cheap, the Sigma 50-500mm f/4 to f/6.3 is fairly well known as a good lens for the price (~$1,000). Nicknamed the "bigma": http://www.amazon.com/Sigma-50-500mm.../dp/B0009F3MPQ

Then of course, there's always this cannon:
Get the heli pilots looking a bit nervous with that one

But I kinda want to buy something that will do macro next and I thought because the TC would let me get 2:1 reproduction and let me have a 300mm, albeit with dodgy AF, it would also be a good deal seeing as TC + 150mm is cheaper than the BIGMA and still give me some change D:.
    
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just curious..............i googled that sweet lens.........i found a price tag.pleas tell me you didnt pay what google says its worth!!
I paid $8350, overnight shipping included from J&R Electronics in NY.
BTW, I give them a 10/10 customer rating. It was the first time doing business with them, and I would do it again in a heartbeat. Good people.

opened an Amazon credit card and I get 6% back for the first 90 days so I'm getting a check for $501 as well so after all's said and done, I paid ~$7849 for the lens.

But you're right Marin, the dark side is ~25% higher at the super-tele end.

I'm seriously thinking of picking up a used 50D and a new Canon 800mm f/5.6 for small birds next year.
    
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Get the heli pilots looking a bit nervous with that one

But I kinda want to buy something that will do macro next and I thought because the TC would let me get 2:1 reproduction and let me have a 300mm, albeit with dodgy AF, it would also be a good deal seeing as TC + 150mm is cheaper than the BIGMA and still give me some change D:.

I bought the Bigma awhile back, shot ~20 pics with it and brought it back. It's a piece of garbage. I've seen some decent stuff with their long primes, but their quality control is terrible. You get a good copy or not?? Come on !!!

I'll consider a Sigma lens if a retailer will line up four or five and let me pick one.
    
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I bought the Bigma awhile back, shot ~20 pics with it and brought it back. It's a piece of garbage. I've seen some decent stuff with their long primes, but their quality control is terrible. You get a good copy or not?? Come on !!!

I'll consider a Sigma lens if a retailer will line up four or five and let me pick one.

Hm no company can be that bad can they? I'm seriously contemplating Sigma lens for a few reasons, there is like a 30% discount off sigma stuff right now as well as the fact that Nikkor Pro stuff is priced high, as Marin mildly put it a few posts back. For me, (thanks to the random pricing in Australia) it will either be Nikon kit or 3rd party pro with the exception of macro where for some reason the 3rd party are just as expensive as the Nikkors.

EDIT: Just had this thought, take the Nikkor 60 2.8 which gets to 1x repoduction ratio, the D60 has a 1.5x crop which makes the 60mm a 90mm so does that mean that the 60 2.8 will give a max reproduction ratio of 1.5x?
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Hm no company can be that bad can they? I'm seriously contemplating Sigma lens for a few reasons, there is like a 30% discount off sigma stuff right now as well as the fact that Nikkor Pro stuff is priced high, as Marin mildly put it a few posts back. For me, (thanks to the random pricing in Australia) it will either be Nikon kit or 3rd party pro with the exception of macro where for some reason the 3rd party are just as expensive as the Nikkors.

EDIT: Just had this thought, take the Nikkor 60 2.8 which gets to 1x repoduction ratio, the D60 has a 1.5x crop which makes the 60mm a 90mm so does that mean that the 60 2.8 will give a max reproduction ratio of 1.5x?

Check out some of the other forums, Nikoncafe', fredmiranda, POTN, people all complain about sigma getting it right on a regular basis. There even issues with the 50mm f/1.4. That's a newly introduced lens that should have all the wrinkles ironed out. If you get a good copy, you're good to go. If not, it's rma time. I'm just not willing to put up with that crap.
    
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