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Currently watching this on ebay. I'm a little cautious about the whole "WINNING BIDDERS: Please DO NOT make immediate payment at auction-end. It is crucial that you wait for our contact first." thing. Seems like it could be a little dodgy.
    
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Nikon's new 70-200 2.8 VR II is looking pretty sweet so far. I've seen samples of hand holding at 1/13 f/2.8 at 200mm and they are SHARP. Pretty insane if you ask me.
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Currently watching this on ebay. I'm a little cautious about the whole "WINNING BIDDERS: Please DO NOT make immediate payment at auction-end. It is crucial that you wait for our contact first." thing. Seems like it could be a little dodgy.
It's too good to be true.
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It's too good to be true.
Yeah, that's also exactly what I was thinking. There's still a good 20 hours left to bid, but I would have expected it to have more bids than it does. I wouldn't mind the D700 though
    
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Nikon finally updated their vendor purchase form.

D300S body for $1,200.

I want it so badly.
I don't know if you're into the video option, if you can bypass that then I would say to look for a used D300 in good shape and snarf it up. There really is a BIG difference between the D60 and the D300 (or D300S for that matter).

I went from a D50 to my D300 and couldn't believe the difference. But I really began to apreciate my D300 on a different level after I got my D3.

I'd sell you my D3 for cheap, but the changes made to yield the D3S aren't enough to make me want to upgrade.

The extra ram would be nice, but that's only useful if you're bursting .nef's. I shoot jpeg large, fine when shooting sports so the 256m is totally fine for me.

But I would really think about the D300 or D300S seriously Foxie. you won't be sorry.
    
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I got a blood blister when trying to open the container today, awesome...

And only six shots on the roll came out (roll has been sitting in my room for over four years), so not really worth it... ugg...
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Work for an authorized Nikon dealer

how much can you get a D300 for then?
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I don't know if you're into the video option, if you can bypass that then I would say to look for a used D300 in good shape and snarf it up. There really is a BIG difference between the D60 and the D300 (or D300S for that matter).

I went from a D50 to my D300 and couldn't believe the difference. But I really began to apreciate my D300 on a different level after I got my D3.

I'd sell you my D3 for cheap, but the changes made to yield the D3S aren't enough to make me want to upgrade.

The extra ram would be nice, but that's only useful if you're bursting .nef's. I shoot jpeg large, fine when shooting sports so the 256m is totally fine for me.

But I would really think about the D300 or D300S seriously Foxie. you won't be sorry.
It looks like it would feel like my F100 and D1, both of which I love.

I think I'm going to go into my local shoppe tomorrow (Only damn store in Columbus that has the D300S) and try it out.


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how much can you get a D300 for then?
The D300 was $1,100 before they discontinued it/replaced with D300S.

The D700 is $2,000 and the D90 body is ~$640.
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It looks like it would feel like my F100 and D1, both of which I love.

I think I'm going to go into my local shoppe tomorrow (Only damn store in Columbus that has the D300S) and try it out.
It's gonna feel entirely more solid and substantial than your D60.
I love my D3. I love my D300 as well. Regardless where I go in FX land, I will always have a crop sensor body for FL scale-ups.
    
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Nikon's new 70-200 2.8 VR II is looking pretty sweet so far. I've seen samples of hand holding at 1/13 f/2.8 at 200mm and they are SHARP. Pretty insane if you ask me.
I think I saw the same article you're referring to here.

The pictures from the new 70-200 looked really nice, but the second shot taken with a 70-200 VRI 1/13th, f/2.8 @200mm kinda threw me for a loop. In fact the camera shake appeared way exaggerated. I don't like VR period for sports and wildlife cause I think it has a problem with dynamic AF which I use alot. With VR, you have to acquire your subject, engage VR and then wait for it to "settle". Not a good situation for sports or fast moving twichy animals.
My 400mm f/2.8 has VRII and quite frankly, I dont see alot of difference from VRI.

Anyway, I mounted my 70-200 VRI on my D3 and took some shots of a pillow, (by no means flat) under incandescant lighting, same conditions. VR on, 1/13th, f/2.8 @ 200mm hand held. These are jpegs out of the camera with in camera sharpenig set to 5, no pp except for cropping, exif intact.

Full frame:


100% crop at center focus point:


Now when viewing the 100% crop, don't forget this is not a flat object, it's 6 feet away from me, hence the dof is very small. But you can see the individual threads hand held at 1/13th ss.

I myself was pondering selling my 70-200 VI and geting the new lens, but I just can't convince my self to take the hit cash wise.

In my opinion, Cliff Mautner's comparison of VRI vs. VRII smells fishy. I guess if Nikon sent me a new lens to try, I'd try and make it look good too.

It looks like they've fixed the edge sharpness issue at full apeture on FX, but I shoot my 70-200 90% of the time as a second soccer lens on my D300 (DX) with my backgrounds out of focus so it's really not an issue for me.

Two extra ED elements is always a good thing, but the five in my lens seem to provide awesome color reproduction anyway.

I guess if I didn't own the VRI version and were in the market, I would wait for the new lens to hit the streets next month. For the people that do decide to upgrade, they'll be some good deals on some used VRI's which will be an awfully good thing for folks who couldn't afford or didn't want to pay the asking price for a new 70-200.

But I'm definately keeping my VRI...
    
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