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since you guys seem to know your cams fairly well what would you get and why.
xsi vs the 40d. I want my own cam now since I keep stealing the cam my wife owns new (thanks for the help on that one guys you made a very happy wifey ) and that doesn't make her happy.
XTI is the easy grab but figured might as well get the XSI as it can be done fairly easily but the 40d is a stretch but if it really is worth I can buy it. I'm just trying to figure out if it really is worth it and why or just stick with the XSI.
Edited by rx7speed - 7/10/08 at 7:18am
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Hrm... I was looking at the XSI before I decided to go Nikon....

Go try the XSI and 40D- One of the MOST importanty aspects of a good camera is its ergonomics- they ALL take great photos, so see if you would like using it also....

And it would be to your benefit to try a Nikon D40 and maybe a D80. I was going canon until I tried using both side by side....
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40D < XSi < XTi.

But, you must remember, the camera has a learning curve. The 40D's learning curve is up there man. You'll have to read the manual, ask tons of questions.

Also, if you are looking to buy the camera, don't forget you need to get lenses as well!! That goes with either of the three.

If it was me, buy the body only, and get better lenses.
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The 40D is a great camera. Feels extremely good in the hands specially with the grip. Learning is not too bad. The GUI is a lot easier than my 1DMarkII
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What are some lenses to get after buying a body only camera? I am looking to get an XSi soon, and would like to buy some lenses that are good but don't break the bank. I am a noob when it comes to cameras but i am very interested in learning all that I can.
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ive tried to look thru this best i could, to try and find the question i have, but either my ADD or my impaitence made me just go ahead and ask.


my girlfriend, she LOVES pictures, loves taking them. but she's only had point and shoots and you can see her frustration with how the pictures come out. on top of it, someone (ahem im sorry lauren) left her camera on the ground after taking some pictures for the site here, and the camera kind of got busted >.< no bueno.


it is now my mission to find her a D-SLR that has the ability to be upgraded well, ie not a crappy body thats never going to be much better, no matter the lens. but im also looking for something thats cheaper. i want to spend around 400 for the lens and body. used is absolutly fine, but i dont really know what to look for, as all i know about cameras is that they steal your soul! (im a native american, lulz) any brands, sites, ideas, or if anyone has something they might want to get rid of, help a red brother out! and hurry shes so mad at me lol
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Originally Posted by donnybrook View Post
ive tried to look thru this best i could, to try and find the question i have, but either my ADD or my impaitence made me just go ahead and ask.


my girlfriend, she LOVES pictures, loves taking them. but she's only had point and shoots and you can see her frustration with how the pictures come out. on top of it, someone (ahem im sorry lauren) left her camera on the ground after taking some pictures for the site here, and the camera kind of got busted >.< no bueno.


it is now my mission to find her a D-SLR that has the ability to be upgraded well, ie not a crappy body thats never going to be much better, no matter the lens. but im also looking for something thats cheaper. i want to spend around 400 for the lens and body. used is absolutly fine, but i dont really know what to look for, as all i know about cameras is that they steal your soul! (im a native american, lulz) any brands, sites, ideas, or if anyone has something they might want to get rid of, help a red brother out! and hurry shes so mad at me lol
That's a tight budget, I would save more and stretch it a it. Now that the XSi is out, the XTi's are a bit cheaper. You can get a body with kit lens for about $600:
http://www.us1photo.com/catalog/prod...oducts_id=4409

However, there is a cheaper alternative, the Nikon D40 for $430:
http://www.us1photo.com/catalog/prod...oducts_id=4409

Those are basic setups with a kit lens, battery, strap and software. Memory cards, cases, tripods and filters are more.

Also, check this guide out, it's organized by price range and has recommendations for decent SLRs (but not all):
http://www.dcresource.com/buyersguide/
Edited by GoneTomorrow - 7/11/08 at 3:21pm
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Originally Posted by donnybrook View Post
ive tried to look thru this best i could, to try and find the question i have, but either my ADD or my impaitence made me just go ahead and ask.


my girlfriend, she LOVES pictures, loves taking them. but she's only had point and shoots and you can see her frustration with how the pictures come out. on top of it, someone (ahem im sorry lauren) left her camera on the ground after taking some pictures for the site here, and the camera kind of got busted >.< no bueno.


it is now my mission to find her a D-SLR that has the ability to be upgraded well, ie not a crappy body thats never going to be much better, no matter the lens. but im also looking for something thats cheaper. i want to spend around 400 for the lens and body. used is absolutly fine, but i dont really know what to look for, as all i know about cameras is that they steal your soul! (im a native american, lulz) any brands, sites, ideas, or if anyone has something they might want to get rid of, help a red brother out! and hurry shes so mad at me lol


Nikon D40! UNDER Budget, and great optical quality and a nice body.

D40X if you want more MP

D60 if you want VR in the kit lens + improved body... (Its like D40x v-2)

Nikon Vs Canon- Nikon is better designed, and has greeeaaaatttttt cheap optics- Better than canon in the cheap end by a long shot IMO.... Their menus are better, the smaller (cheap) ones just feel better in the hand than Canon, Yes, the AF lens choice on the D40/60 is limited- BUT you can get manual lenses for them for reaallyy cheap. And the newer lenses will meter, just no autofocus. AND Since she is new to the SLR world, she can choose to only buy compatible lenses so she gets autofocus too..

IMO Nikon > Canon in the cheap end, especially for a girl. (They have a tendency to care more about look/feel etc ergonomics of things... So do I so dont call me sexist....)


MAKE SURE she knows that a SLR doesnt mean good pictures- it means the quality and ability to control everything possible so she can create great shots. It doesnt do the work for you- If you keep it on the 100% automatic "point and shoot" mode, they can be WORSE than a point and shoot..... Yes SLR's OWN, but not if you arent willing to do some work and thinking.
Edited by christian_piper - 7/11/08 at 3:35pm
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What are some lenses to get after buying a body only camera? I am looking to get an XSi soon, and would like to buy some lenses that are good but don't break the bank. I am a noob when it comes to cameras but i am very interested in learning all that I can.
SDawg, this guide says it all as far as I'm concerned:
http://www.dcresource.com/forums/sho...s+buyers+guide

In my (non-professional-purely-amateur) opinion, you should have two kinds at the very least, but there are for basic kinds of lenses:
1. a good "walkabout" lens; i.e. a small zoom lens
2. a prime lens (fixed focal length and good for low light/protraits, 50mm is the most common focal length)
3. macro lens (also fixed FL, various sizes - 60mm, 80mm, 100mm, etc.)
4. wide angle (fixed, small focal lengths, e.g. 10mm - 20mm)
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I've seen some xt bodies that are going for around that much and from what I have seen compared to the S5 I currently have they are MUCH better. From what I have seen though and heard just about any dslr cam made recently is going to be loads better then just about any point and shoot cam. but other then that I'm not much help as I don't know much about cams either other then what little I've picked up in the last month.

sdawg I wish I could you as well but so far what I'm going with right now going to be just the standard kit lens as I'm broke and worried more about the body for the moment. one of the lenses I have heard great things about though is the 50mm f1.8 at least as far as price to performance. you can get one for under 100 many times but also depending on what you are taking pictures of it might not work so hot either just being it can't zoom in or go any wider but is just a straight 50mm lens.

just to add this dislaimer again though I'm a noob myself and this is just little I picked up so it could be right could be wrong. do your own research first before you take my word as gospel


Brin right now I don't have a load of money and it seems to get a kit lens is cheaper then to just buy body only and then buy better lens. right now I'm worried more about getting the right body as I plan on using that same body for quite some time and then just upgrade the lenses as I go, or am I really going about this wrong? I know lenses make a HUGE impact on performance and they will get upgraded don't get me wrong but it is easier to swap a lens then swap a camera right?


between the XSI and the 40D what are the biggest real world differences between them other then the obvious size thing. I've tried doing my research on them but I just can't quite grasp it yet as to real world difference as many review sites seem to be just focused more on paper differences rather then how this feature can make the job easier/different/better and so forth.
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