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Hey everyone... I'm in a night-time phase right now. Anyone have any tips (filters, shutter speeds, aperature, ISO speeds, etc.) to get some fancy schmancy shots???
    
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oooo, i wanna know how that tamron lens performs. I was thinking of either getting the following to replace my kit lens.

Tamron 17-50 f2.8
Sigma 18-50 f2.8
Carl Zeiss 16-80 f3.5-4.5 (most exepensive one)

Post lots of pics when you can

EDIT: btw, can someone add me to the list? Here's what I'm using at the moment.

Sony Alpha A200 w/ 18-70 f3.5-5.6 kit lens
B+W UV Haze Filter

Thats about it for now until I get my hands on an old Minolta 70-210 f4 "beercan" lens.

EDIT 2: Thought I'd post a pic I took a few days ago. Its a picture of my lil puppy (not really a puppy anymore but i still think of him as one ) Its a 100% center crop. I love the expression he has on his face.


man is he cute as hell!!! not as cute as my kitty i posted a few lines lol but for a dog he is damm cute!!
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Hey everyone... I'm in a night-time phase right now. Anyone have any tips (filters, shutter speeds, aperature, ISO speeds, etc.) to get some fancy schmancy shots???
Here is one night shot.... EXTREMELY dark- looked nothing like this in real life.



TRIPOD TRIPOD TRIPOD.....

Exposure: 30 sec (30)
ISO Speed: 1600
Aperature was f/2- as fast as my lens goes. It was really dark... (VERY small moon- yes it looks full- thanks to ISO 1600 and 30 seconds...)
LENS: 50mm f/2 nikkor manual lens.

So what do you need? Long exposures wide aperatures and a still subject- or something that looks good still (That shot the waves were choppy, turned calm looking)

OH- That had a UV filter on it- if I was smart enough to remove it all that green CA would go away..... oh well




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Here is another low light long exposure shot, but wasn't a pitch black shot like before.


Exposure: 2 sec (2)
Aperture: f/8
Focal Length: 18 mm
ISO Speed: 100
Exposure Bias: 1 EV

That one had a LOT more light- so I upped the aperature for a sharper shot, and put the ISO at lowest for a clean shot- and used 2 seconds to capture.

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This one was taken with my canon G9 Compact:

Exposure: 1 sec (1)
Aperture: f/2.8
Focal Length: 7.4 mm
ISO Speed: 200
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I hope these different examples + settings helped at least a bit.... Get a tripod and enjoy!
Edited by christian_piper - 8/5/08 at 4:31pm
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Here is one night shot.... EXTREMELY dark- looked nothing like this in real life.

This looks incredible thank you for your help.

You mentioned removing the UV filter. What does that do exactly? I just use it to protect my lens, but I always thought it really didn't affect the pic that much.
    
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man is he cute as hell!!! not as cute as my kitty i posted a few lines lol but for a dog he is damm cute!!
Pshhh Your kitty is cute, but I've always found dogs to be cuter
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This looks incredible thank you for your help.

You mentioned removing the UV filter. What does that do exactly? I just use it to protect my lens, but I always thought it really didn't affect the pic that much.
It improves image quality overall slightly, and makes chromatic aberrations less likely- that green around the moon WAS caused by my UV filter (I replicated it in another shot, fixed it by removing it..) ANY filter will cause potential IQ isses, and CA is a common issue. (Remove it if you notice an issue)
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What do you guys think of this pic I took? I did some minor adjustments of contrast.

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Nice bokeh and great tips! You really HH that last one for an entire second?

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What do you guys think of this pic I took? I did some minor adjustments of contrast.

Looks nice, reminds me of running around the forest in crysis.
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might want to try dealextreme.com for the card reader. they are cheap but at 2-5 bucks with free shipping it can't be that bad. worst part is shipping takes some time they quote 6-8 weeks I usually get it though within 2-4weeks but that is US from china. not sure how UK would be. they are at least honest and upfront and it is free though so...
so far though I have had fairly good luck with their products so I can't complain to much about them. I jus
Thanks for the advice, but I've already ordered all the stuff in the list and (except the sensor cleaning kit) it's all already been dispatched now.

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oooo, i wanna know how that tamron lens performs. I was thinking of either getting the following to replace my kit lens.

Tamron 17-50 f2.8
Sigma 18-50 f2.8
Carl Zeiss 16-80 f3.5-4.5 (most exepensive one)

Post lots of pics when you can
The Tamron lens has equal to better MTF numbers across the focal range than the stupendously expensive Nikon equivalent, so I'm guessing it's better than the Sigma. In addition, Tamron have a somewhat better reputation than Sigma (from what I've read) in terms of customer service and build quality.

Also, although Carl Zeiss lenses are usually very good, you get f2.8 throughout with the Tamron vs the Zeiss' f3.5-4.5, which makes the Tamron more flexible in terms of giving you greater control over DOF and better "available light" shooting capability, as well as making it "faster glass" in general than the Zeiss.

For the money, the Tamron really is an excellent lens and it even comes with an AF motor now as well (find the right model), which makes it AF a bit quicker than the non-motor model. I've done quite a bit of research into the Tamron and optically, it's really very good. There is a bit of distortion and some CAs, but nothing major and nothing that can't be remedied if you shoot in RAW and even if you shoot in JPG and have the right software. The most important factor for me is image quality and the Tamron has that in spades.

Check out this analysis.

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Wow, that is really good. Very nice image indeed. Love the composition, the lighting, the colours, everything. Very nice.

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Hey everyone... I'm in a night-time phase right now. Anyone have any tips (filters, shutter speeds, aperature, ISO speeds, etc.) to get some fancy schmancy shots???
I've only shot at night a few times, but I used a tripod and shutter speeds of 1 to 4 seconds on a fairly light night, with ISO200/400 and as wide an aperture as I could go. That was with my old FZ50 superzoom, so I'll probably do things a little differently with my D300.

It depends on the circumstances you find yourself and what outcome you want as to what settings you use, but I'd recommend a tripod, if you don't already plan to use one. That gives you some flexibility with regards to longer shutter speeds. Of course, with longer shutter speeds, motion blur will be more evident, which can be undesirable. Shorter shutter speeds will mean wider apertures, which can make edges look softer, which could also be undesirable, or higher ISOs, which can introduce the almost universally undesirable noise.

It's really about finding a combination that works best in the circumstances you find yourself in, for getting the results you want. There's not really an exact formula for any kind of photography as far as I know. I guess that's what makes it more of an art-form, than a science. Still, for night time, what I'd do, is set an ISO as high as I was comfortable wouldn't introduce more noise that could be dealt with. Then set an aperture that gave me a good balance between the sharpness of the subject and as much light as possible getting to the sensor. Then, using a tripod, I'd set a shutter speed that would give a good exposure. I'd also shoot in RAW, so I could more easily correct any mistakes. However, that's just how I'd do it, which is by no means the way to do it .

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