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Hey guys I really want to lower my current LCS temps so i can push a more extreme OC. I have looked at the peltier setups/phase change and not really excited about all the extra isulation heat pads etc. Is there any add on item that will chill the temps of my current LCS??

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Currently i'm getting a good temp at 4.0ghz I have recently even hit 4.4ghz but getting on the hot side 62ish I'm really wanting to push it to 4.8ghz maybe even 5 if i'm lucky. (QX9650)
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You'd likely have condensation issues if you chilled it... :/
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You'd likely have condensation issues if you chilled it... :/
Not if he didn't chill it below ambient.

But I don't think that would help much. The whole point of water is that it caries heat away faster, not necessarily that it's a cooler thermal interface than metal.
    
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You could build yourself some sort of custom t-line that was metal based (obviously nothing that would cause problems with any copper/aluminium components) and have it wrapped by some sort of coiled cooling system. Cool the t-line (more of just a metal junction through which the liquid would run without being insulated by rubber/plastic hose) and therefor cool the liquid passing through it. I'll sketch up a quick diagram.


If that makes any sense. I don't have a degree in hydrothermodynamics or any of that nonsense, but if you could do it in a way that didn't hurt any of your components (I would see insulation in your future...) and at least pull a few degrees out of your coolant...well, its really up to you. Just a thought though.
    
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Originally Posted by Scooby-Snack View Post
Hey guys I really want to lower my current LCS temps so i can push a more extreme OC. I have looked at the peltier setups/phase change and not really excited about all the extra isulation heat pads etc. Is there any add on item that will chill the temps of my current LCS??

Thanks guys.

Currently i'm getting a good temp at 4.0ghz I have recently even hit 4.4ghz but getting on the hot side 62ish I'm really wanting to push it to 4.8ghz maybe even 5 if i'm lucky. (QX9650)
I used a regualer drinking fountain that you see at school or in a office building.



Stripped what was not needed and looked like this.

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Then dressed it up and painted it and added a pump, res, and water block.



It had a temperature controller and I was able to adjust the temps anywhere from 60F down to 33F. If I pulled the temp probe out it would start making the water slush. Bad thing is condensation. It got very bad and I tried to fight it but I came to the conclusion to shut it down because I couldnt even overclock my 5200+ any higher than 3.2ghz so I just went back to stock air. Now it sits next to me doing nothing and since these new 45nm cant take much voltage and overclock high on air or basic water. I dont see any future for my chiller

Anyways good luck with your quest!
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Not if he didn't chill it below ambient.
That's the idea behind a radiator...

I'm assuming he means chill it below ambient.


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You could build yourself some sort of custom t-line that was metal based (obviously nothing that would cause problems with any copper/aluminium components) and have it wrapped by some sort of coiled cooling system. Cool the t-line (more of just a metal junction through which the liquid would run without being insulated by rubber/plastic hose) and therefor cool the liquid passing through it. I'll sketch up a quick diagram.

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If that makes any sense. I don't have a degree in hydrothermodynamics or any of that nonsense, but if you could do it in a way that didn't hurt any of your components (I would see insulation in your future...) and at least pull a few degrees out of your coolant...well, its really up to you. Just a thought though.
Good idea, though the hose would make a good insulator to keep the cold out.

This idea could be made more efficient by having the coil in the reservoir instead of around a tube. Or if the OP is cooling with water and not some special coolant, just freeze some distilled water and drop it in the res.
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I know there are some really knowledgeable guys over at XtremeSystems who can help you out with chilled LC. They'll be able to help you build something from scratch.

You'll have to worry about condensation and thus insulation if you plan on chilling the liquid though. I don't see a way around that. There's one company, who I won't mention by name, that uses pelts to chill liquid. I almost went that route, but ended up throwing out that idea for various reasons, mainly due to people convincing me to stay away.
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Originally Posted by KloroFormd View Post
That's the idea behind a radiator...

I'm assuming he means chill it below ambient.




Good idea, though the hose would make a good insulator to keep the cold out.

This idea could be made more efficient by having the coil in the reservoir instead of around a tube. Or if the OP is cooling with water and not some special coolant, just freeze some distilled water and drop it in the res.
Thats why you have a metal piece of tube with barbs at both ends so that the hose hooks up at one end, the liquid flows through the metal, and then flows out the other end where the rest of the hose is connected.

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You'll have to worry about condensation and thus insulation if you plan on chilling the liquid though. I don't see a way around that. There's one company, who I won't mention by name, that uses pelts to chill liquid. I almost went that route, but ended up throwing out that idea for various reasons, mainly due to people convincing me to stay away.
Yeah, I'm not looking for record overclocks with any chips I get my grubby mits on. As far as I'm concerned, water is excellent at cooling anything I need it to cool compared to air. And phase/pelt is expensive.
    
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Its very easy to insulate your tubing and blocks, it takes about 30-45mins for the thing, excluding taking the motherboard out of the case. Head down to xs`s liquid chilling section. It's best if you get one custom built, but if you cant do that, then you can go pickup an ac for like $30 and mod it. You can around -5c load temps on a quad before you tune it.
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I havn't done much with running a chiller, but I always understood, it's not going below ambient that causes condensation, it's going below the "DEW POINT".

That's quite a bit lower than ambient and depends on humidity. Dryer climates have a much lower DEW point than humid areas.

For example in my area right now with a 55% humidity, the dew point is currently -6C.
http://www.wunderground.com/US/OR/Klamath_Falls.html

That means as long as everything stayed above -6C (right now) condensation would not develop.

With all that said, I think it's probably easier just to run a normal TEC setup or phase if you need more cooling than normal water.
    
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