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if the GPU and CPU are the same technology, why even have them as seperate at this rate?
I imagine the latency is the advantage. A dual-skt setup with a CPU&GPU would be extremely efficient. The latency alone would give it a huge performance edge/advantage over the traditional solution...but your Q raises a good point. Why not..?

When I originally heard reports on Larabee I thought it was a CPU/GPU in one..maybe it will turn out to be.
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if the GPU and CPU are the same technology, why even have them as seperate at this rate?
Exactly why intel and AMD are putting them on die. If intel can work this into a powerful main processor, they might as well build a new system around it, with one graphics/central processing unit.
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So could you run linux on these GPUs?
    
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I think it would be really funny if intel came out of nowhere and released a graphics card that tore up anything being offered from ATI and nvidia. I mean, here ati and nvidia are, fighting for the top spot for all these years, and then sneaking up from behind intel releases a graphics card that leaves them both up *****s creek without a paddle.

Of course intel may get in trouble for being a monopoly, they are dominating the CPU industry, and now are trying to hijack the graphics and physics as well.
That would indeed be funny, as they will kill the competition lol, and as far as I know, it's not impossible that if manufactured, they will kill existing GPUs.
    
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I think the whole multi-core thing is getting a little ridiculous. I mean I'm all for increasing technology, but they're talking about a 16-core card right now that could 'easily scale up to a few thousand cores.' If its so easy then why aren't they doing it now? I know that's kinda a stupid question, but sometimes stupid questions need to be asked.

Plus more cores might mean better performance, but part of me worries that the emphasis manufacturers put on more cores will eventually just result in having 1,000 sub-par cores. 'So what if this core sucks, we're gonna stick another 900 right next to it' kinda situation. Or even worse, you'll have a card with 1,000 perfect cores on it that will cost more than your whole computer does now; and since the technology will be out there game designers will design to those specs and those of us who can't afford that **** won't be able to keep up. Somewhat of a worse case scenario, but no one else seems to be thinking about that, so I thought I'd be the guinea pig.
with graphics cards, performance sells not BS. I don't see people buying 3870s in droves just because it has 320 SPs over the GTS's 128
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The only way I could see this being successful, is if they can use hardware to completely bypass the use of software, like a chip that can automatically pass off the threads to each individual core. Trying to make software that is compatible with every computer game would be too complex compared to a hardware solution. If they used softare, it would only give game developers another reason not to want to make PC games.
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the idea of an x86 processor performing better graphics than a dedicated GPU built around actual graphics calculations is garbage.

Are we sure that the x86 core on larabee isn't just a booster to aid in physics calculations?
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the idea of an x86 processor performing better graphics than a dedicated GPU built around actual graphics calculations is garbage.

Are we sure that the x86 core on larabee isn't just a booster to aid in physics calculations?
no the idea of a company 1/10th the size of intel being able to compete is ridiculous. Enter the era of the GPGPU. Intel needs a way of using their old fabs and chipsets won't work too much longer with the advent of an IMC in nehalem. While it's arguable, intel seems to have the most advanced manufacturing technology in the world and will more or less crush anything out of TSMC.

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I imagine the latency is the advantage. A dual-skt setup with a CPU&GPU would be extremely efficient. The latency alone would give it a huge performance edge/advantage over the traditional solution...but your Q raises a good point. Why not..?

When I originally heard reports on Larabee I thought it was a CPU/GPU in one..maybe it will turn out to be.
GPUs are generally very insensitive to latency. band width bandwidth bandwidth that's all they want. and current uarchs aren't even that sensitive to bandwidth it seems.
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They need years of experince in order to even come close to ATi and nvidia. Come one Intel only did a good job with CD2 thats it. Last i remeber they were not the best. There current GX suck. They cant just make a card from scrach and actully make it powerfull enough to work with curent games.
LOLOLOLOL.

Do you know how much money Intel has for R&D? They could practically start their own civilization on Mars if they wanted to. THAT'S how much.
    
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AMD competes...

Anyway... you're saying that x86 is a superior design for GPGPU?

I can't understand. How is anything with a CISC core going to outperoprm a chip designed to only perform graphics.

Now if they wanted to put x86 on a card to act as a "helper" I'd understand completely. It could aid in many things other than graphics processing but the graphics chip should remain specialized...

No current consoles have ANY x86 technology in them!

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And couldnt Nvidia / just jump to PowerPC or SPARC or something like that if they needed general purpose cores on their GPU.
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