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So what if they used an application ... honestly. Who uses a OS with no applications running?
QTF. People complain that it's unfair when everyday applications are used in the hacking, saying it's not representative of the OS's security. What kind of computer user just installs their OS and nothing else?
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so vista got hacked.. well that sucks cause im posting this from my new vista installatoin
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post #13 of 76
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So what if they used an application ... honestly. Who uses a OS with no applications running?
Yes, that is a good point, however they are trying to determine the 'general hackability' of the OS, and having applications being the source of the hack does not reflect the OS in a general sense at all. If they saw how many applications out there that did allow hacking, and then comparing the total number for each OS, that would be a much better representation. This is just a small slice of data, and really cannot be considered a reflection of the overall security of an OS.
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At least it took longer than 2 minutes

Honestly, the only secure computer is one which is unplugged and buried under 6 feet of concrete. No computer being used is "unhackable".
Agreed... People know how the OS works na dthe activation modules etc.. SIMPLY BECAUSE PEOPLE MADE THEM SO THEY HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE.
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post #15 of 76
General interface with the OS from other applications is a direct security issue. Saying that you can't use an app to hack is silly. An OS is nothing but a nice looking screen unless there are apps whether they be 1st party (say IE or Safari) or 3rd Party (Adobe, et al).

The secure nature of the OS is directly dependent on how it interacts and allows access via the installed app base.
    
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so vista got hacked.. well that sucks cause im posting this from my new vista installatoin
They are all going to get hacked, it is just a matter of time. The big deal is how long it takes to get each one.
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post #17 of 76
The vulnerability exploited was in the new version of Flash, so the pwn is really on Adobe. You can't stop people from installing unsecured apps on a machine, especially one as ubiquitous as Flash.
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post #18 of 76
This is more of a hit on adobe and less on vista cause his can happen to linux and osx.
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post #19 of 76
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In the end, it was reported that some folks on hand had discovered bugs in the Linux OS, but many of them "didn't want to put the work into developing the exploit code that would be required to win the contest."
http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/29/l...own-unscathed/

So according to that the reason Linux didn't get hacked was because they were too lazy

Now when they say "new version" of flash, does that mean like brand-new-just-came-out-yesterday?
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x86 and x64 are one in the same.

All versions of vista are x86. Thats why they run on Intel CPU;s
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