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hey im redoing the so-so watercooling system that came with my case. i was planning on cooling the CPU, GPU, and northbridge. I have excellent case temps (see sig) so now im wondering if its really worth it to watercool the chipset. should i maybe look for a ram waterblock instead so i can OC my ram higher? any advice/suggestions welcome. thanks
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No, don't do it.

your "so-so" system is much less than so-so, it's bad, (I'll just be honest and say it up front).

I would replace your current system if anything before you make any additions or upgrades. What's your budget?
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What cooling is used today on the chipset? Is it a basic heat-sink only? Is it a heat-sink and fan? Is it a heat-sink-pipe combo with fan?

Before anyone can comment we need to know where the current level of cooling is before making an answer for water-cooling.

That 1828-FSB is reaching mighty high. If the temps are still cool, you could bump the cooling up by another method prior to making a splash into water-cooling.

It's somewhat rare that water-cooling can benefit a chipset over some of the better air-cooled solutions out there.
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No, don't do it.
your "so-so" system is much less than so-so, it's bad, (I'll just be honest and say it up front).
Can you see somethin I can't?
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No, don't do it.

your "so-so" system is much less than so-so, it's bad, (I'll just be honest and say it up front).

I would replace your current system if anything before you make any additions or upgrades. What's your budget?
Maybe i did not clarify this but the WC parts in my sig are going into this rig (completely replacing the "bad" built in system). My budget is... not really specified. I will spend money on quality components but its not a "money-is-no-object" build. The only sacrifices i have made so far for the sake of cost is not getting thermochill rads because they're more than twice the price of the swiftechs or hw labs.

I love this case and it has tons of room to build a custom WC loop. The northbridge is currently cooled with the stock heatsink/heatpipe asus design. I also have an antec spot cool fan directed at the RAM and the NB. I optimized my case airflow last weekend which ended up dropping my mobo temps almost 20 degrees on average. since his board loves very high fsb (has run all benchmarks and games at over 1950fsb but CPU is not p95 stable) and is adequately cooled already, im thinkin maybe i should look at some ram waterblocks to push my ram further.

And before anyone hates on the gigabyte built in system too much, its kept my OCed B3 space heater within its recommended temps for over 6 months with zero maintenance. I recently found out that the rad is aluminum and obviously the CPU block is copper which means corrosion is pretty much guaranteed at some point. obviously its a mid to low range WC system but it does work. Hence the project of tearing it out of this case and building a custom loop.
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A RAM block doesnt increase overclockability significantly. Just put a fan over it, unless you want to do it just because you can. In which case i would have to recommend the MIPS RAM-Freezer 4.
Same goes for the Southbridge, and since you dont have an exceptionally hot NB, stick with air on that one too, perhaps with a Thermalright HR-05. If you really want to watercool those.. -> Dangerden's new chipset blocks seem to rock, Martin uses them (you may or may not know that he is the guy here who tests everything he can get his hands on).
For GPU you may want to consider the Swiftech MCW-60. The advantage it has over full coverage blocks is that you can upgrade your card without having to buy a new block. It has low restriction and excellent temps. You'll need RAM-sinks to put on your RAM/VREG-chips though, which you may or may not like.
Finally, I assume you take a 220 and 120 rad over a single 320 due to space issues? If you can, a single 320 will be more effective, as it only restricts about as much as 1 of the 2 other rads, yet cools as much as both.

Also, since you want to cool your RAM, I'm surprised you didn't mention your MB's MOSFETs. As useless as RAM-watercooling in most cases, but again, in case you want it, the block you want is the EK Mosfet ASUS 3, it seems you need this same one for both MOSFET parts.
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A RAM block doesnt increase overclockability significantly. Just put a fan over it, unless you want to do it just because you can. In which case i would have to recommend the MIPS RAM-Freezer 4.
Same goes for the Southbridge, and since you dont have an exceptionally hot NB, stick with air on that one too, perhaps with a Thermalright HR-05. If you really want to watercool those.. -> Dangerden's new chipset blocks seem to rock, Martin uses them (you may or may not know that he is the guy here who tests everything he can get his hands on).
For GPU you may want to consider the Swiftech MCW-60. The advantage it has over full coverage blocks is that you can upgrade your card without having to buy a new block. It has low restriction and excellent temps. You'll need RAM-sinks to put on your RAM/VREG-chips though, which you may or may not like.
Finally, I assume you take a 220 and 120 rad over a single 320 due to space issues? If you can, a single 320 will be more effective, as it only restricts about as much as 1 of the 2 other rads, yet cools as much as both.

Also, since you want to cool your RAM, I'm surprised you didn't mention your MB's MOSFETs. As useless as RAM-watercooling in most cases, but again, in case you want it, the block you want is the EK Mosfet ASUS 3, it seems you need this same one for both MOSFET parts.
Ok. well i dont really need to wc my ram or my nb and money is runnin a little tight for this project so im gunna skip them for now and just WC the cpu and gpu. and yes a 3x120mm rad will not work for me due to space requirements. flow shouldnt be much of an issue with this pump afaik (swiftech mcp655).
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post #8 of 9
nah, you're fine with 2 rads on that pump.
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Since you have one BIG bad boy CPU with tons of heat, have you looked at the EK Supreme CPU water-block?

You can dig up the info here: http://www.petrastechshop.com/eksuuncpuwa1.html or http://ekwaterblocks.com/shop/produc...roducts_id=229

Or you can do a search on the web for "EK Supreme"

It's been the latest take in water-blocks in the last few months. Some have even mentioned that it mimics the OEM liquid cooling water-blocks in the Dell XPS water-cooled H2C.

At first glance I had thought this water-block was a Swifty, due to it's assembly components. Thou, it looks surprisingly different in other ways.
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