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As for being dugg: 50K+ views of this thread in less than 24 hours, and not even a hint of lag... wtg OCN admins, great job

EDIT: Most users ever online was 2,737, 5 Hours Ago at 08:09 AM.... an hour later, I saw 980 guests in this thread alone
Wow, broke the record. Dang. Now that's a lot of people!

This thing is a big deal, huh?
    
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I recognize that mjc420 for some reason, i want to say he is on the evga forum.
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WELL since creative pulled the driver support which they werent even producing, I see they have every right to be angry with creative, and they have a right to demonstrate by however means they want.

But LOL at jinja_ninja's idea.... Burn a CDR with the driver software on it lolzzz


I think that the small demonstration going on will push creative for better support, something always happens eventually when things like this occur.


Althogh I still dont understand why Creative did what they did
    
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post #794 of 1091
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I know everyone is now boycotting Creative, but has anyone thought of what sound cards they will buy if Creative goes bankrupt?
My ears love the CMI8788 cards (Razer Barracuda AC-1; HT Omega Claro; Auzentech X-Meridian; I've tried all these, but the Bluegears B-Enspirer is another card with the same APU) more than the X-Fi.

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I also think that throwing out perfectly good sound cards is a total waste of money and the people that do it are just plain stupid. If you're not happy with the product, send it back, don't snap it in half.
Very true.
    
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I recognize that mjc420 for some reason, i want to say he is on the evga forum.

Anyone know a mod on the evga forum who can get us an IP or real name? Maybe pass it on to an OCN mod?

EDIT: @ 800 ppl still
post #796 of 1091
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As for being dugg: 50K+ views of this thread in less than 24 hours, and not even a hint of lag... wtg OCN admins, great job

EDIT: Most users ever online was 2,737, 5 Hours Ago at 08:09 AM.... an hour later, I saw 980 guests in this thread alone
i forget what time it was at, but i saw close to 1100 in this thread alone
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Anyone know a mod on the evga forum who can get us an IP or real name? Maybe pass it on to an OCN mod?
searching for him right now
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As a matter of fact, I do have two Creative sound cards. An Audigy 2ZS and an X-Fi Platinum. They work perfectly and have done so for years. To me, not having to use their support service is a positive reflection on them.
Congratulations on being the minority.

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I won't use Vista because Microsoft broke audio hardware acceleration by ripping out the guts of DirectSound. They removed the Hardware Abstraction Layer from Vista. No sense in blaming Creative for that. It looks more like Microsoft sticking it to Creative and consumers by requiring all the cool processing that the X-Fi does to be done by your host CPU instead of offloading it to the X-Fi.
This is terribly misinformed and rather shortsighted.

1. This is the last year for XP. Microsoft will be ending retail boxes of XP in June, and OEM licenses in January of '09. Not upgrading to Vista despite having the hardware to run it is ridiculous at this point.
2. It's Creative's fault because it was their terrible programming in the first place that put them in this situation. Also, you can have hardware accelerated sound cards, you just can't use the hacky method Creative used before. It means companies will need to write better, more stable drivers, which results in a better experience.
3. Daniel_K proved that the HAL had nothing to do with the driver issues. Microsoft cannot be blamed for this. Creative knows how to fix it, they just won't.

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The reason other sound cards don't have any trouble is because other sound cards don't have all the hardware processing horsepower that the X-Fi has built-in. Other manufacturers are simply providing codecs for clean audio I/O and any game audio processing follows the Vista model by processing at the host level.
That's a sweeping generalization if I ever saw one, and is also mostly incorrect. Yes, onboard sound cards generally don't have much in the way of hardware acceleration, but there are numerous other cards out there that do. And Vista's driver model has nothing to do with it.

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People need to read up before flipping out and calling for Creative's head on a plate. This is a ridiculous overreaction by people who don't understand what Creative's hardware is designed to do. It isn't a simple on/off switch that magically does everything you want or doesn't.
But, it is a simple switch. Daniel_K proved this. They have the means to make it work, and easily. They just refuse to do it. It's their responsibility, and they lied to their customers about it.

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Would you react the same way if Microsoft suddenly decided that everything your nVidia 8800 does could be done in software, so they removed hardware acceleration support in the next Vista update? Would that somehow be nVidia's problem?
You do realize that Microsoft did change the video driver model also, in Vista? I don't see any loss of hardware acceleration there, just far more stable drivers and future support for amazing DX10 features. Why don't you leave the blame where it really belongs?
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Great, my memory isnt the greatest but I know the mjc420 some how, looked at his photobucket and hes a marine like me, no wonder hes an ass. Ill send him a message.
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I just hope this wakes creative up a little bit.

at this point I admit I'm a little miffed with them being I used to own one of their x-fi platinum cards taht supported dolby and DTS decoding. updated the drivers and all of a sudden dolby decoding is gone. it's not an issue with the card on this one just the drivers as an uninstall of their "updated" drivers and reinstalling off the disk fixed the "problem"
that card broke bought a x-fi gamer fatality it said on back of the box dolby and DTS decoding, if you looked on their website for support with the x-fi fatality gamer series it showed you how to enable dolby and dTs decoding yet if tried to follow their own instructions it didn't work as they had no dolby tab. contacting their own tech support was a joke and took a few weeks worth of emails back and forth for them to finally tell me oh sorry the fatality series doesn't support dolby. even though I gave them that info off the bat it still took a few weeks for them to finally tell me it has been disabled.
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