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lol reading though the original post creative dont have any defence for the decision, only thing I can see is him taking donations for drivers... but even then they should have just asked him to stop taking donations, this guy daniel_k seems more capable then the whole of creatives software devolpment team... creative need to start working on customer service. They have done a immoral thing by not includeing thease options in vista like they were in xp, forceing customers to upgrade to newer models to make a extra buck is wrong, this daniel_k guy isnt in the wrong.... creative is
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I bought them within like a year of each other. They started failing when I had them all in my possession at the same time. It's not like I bought one, it broke, bought something else, it broke, then went out to buy 2 other things that broke.

And my friends had got their stuff around the same time I did, and ours started all falling apart together.
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lol reading though the original post creative dont have any defence for the decision, only thing I can see is him taking donations for drivers... but even then they should have just asked him to stop taking donations, this guy daniel_k seems more capable then the whole of creatives software devolpment team... creative need to start working on customer service. They have done a immoral thing by not includeing thease options in vista like they were in xp, forceing customers to upgrade to newer models to make a extra buck is wrong, this daniel_k guy isnt in the wrong.... creative is
Can I ask you an honest question?

How are they forcing you to upgrade?

I have a Live! 24bit, Audigy 2Zs and an X-Fi Xtreme gamer and they haven't "forced" me to upgrade the older two

I still get 24 bit and full functionality with each...

Even if they did shove you into the next product, thats business. The CPU and GPU markets do basically the same thing so why don't we raise a stink about them too?

Or how about Linksys, their software does the same thing...cut off at the knees in one OS and not in another. So why don't we go after them too??

Too many people causing too much a stink.

I would have joined the bandwagon had this been over a year ago when we first learned of the problem, but now its just a lesson in futility.
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wow....alot of linkbacks...freakin 94 pages...early april fools anyone???? the stock isnt cheaper than the paper it is on its 4.30 as of now.... the sound card support for 7.1 and the soundblaster anme is the heart of the company, but almost everyone uses it really, unless you use the asus zonar card, or realtek stuff...

oh and above, linksys is part of cisco systems so im perfectly fine if the name brand dies off... cause they will replace it really.
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WOW! I just said the word *too* A LOT LOL ^^^^^
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Can I ask you an honest question?

How are they forcing you to upgrade?

I have a Live! 24bit, Audigy 2Zs and an X-Fi Xtreme gamer and they haven't "forced" me to upgrade the older two

I still get 24 bit and full functionality with each...

Even if they did shove you into the next product, thats business. The CPU and GPU markets do basically the same thing so why don't we raise a stink about them too?

Or how about Linksys, their software does the same thing...cut off at the knees in one OS and not in another. So why don't we go after them too??

Too many people causing too much a stink.

I would have joined the bandwagon had this been over a year ago when we first learned of the problem, but now its just a lesson in futility.
They purposely disabled features on the card in Vista that they advertised it had. The sole reason was to force customers that wanted those features would have to buy a new card. The drivers this guy made re-enabled said features. No video card manufacturer has disabled features of its card for a new operating system so you would have to upgrade. (Upgrading so you can have more power for newer games isn't the same.)
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Originally Posted by d31337 View Post
Can I ask you an honest question?

How are they forcing you to upgrade?

I have a Live! 24bit, Audigy 2Zs and an X-Fi Xtreme gamer and they haven't "forced" me to upgrade the older two

I still get 24 bit and full functionality with each...

Even if they did shove you into the next product, thats business. The CPU and GPU markets do basically the same thing so why don't we raise a stink about them too?

Or how about Linksys, their software does the same thing...cut off at the knees in one OS and not in another. So why don't we go after them too??

Too many people causing too much a stink.

I would have joined the bandwagon had this been over a year ago when we first learned of the problem, but now its just a lesson in futility.
look at nvidia and ati for example... I dont see them making a fuss about the omega drivers, why is creative?
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look at nvidia and ati for example... I dont see them making a fuss about the omega drivers, why is creative?
Its because of IP rights and Open source.

Correct me if I am wrong but I thought at least ATI had made its drivers publicly available.

If a company doesn't open source its products or open up with an SDK, every line of code is theirs and theirs alone.

If he had written his own code from the ground up it would have been a different story.
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They purposely disabled features on the card in Vista that they advertised it had. The sole reason was to force customers that wanted those features would have to buy a new card. The drivers this guy made re-enabled said features. No video card manufacturer has disabled features of its card for a new operating system so you would have to upgrade. (Upgrading so you can have more power for newer games isn't the same.)
Which features are they? Ones that even matter when playing a game(aka just so people have a reason to whine and complain) or ones that actually make a difference when tweaking, hooking up to a receiver, watching tv, or adjusting your eq??

(BOLDED = not that everyone plays games but most who buy a creative card do)
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Which features are they? Ones that even matter when playing a game(aka just so people have a reason to whine and complain) or ones that actually make a difference when tweaking, hooking up to a receiver, watching tv, or adjusting your eq??

(BOLDED = not that everyone plays games but most who buy a creative card do)
So the only people that buy sound cards are gamers? I mentioned the video card and games just to make a point that other companies don't intentionally remove features in drivers to force you to upgrade.

Here is a list of features I found.

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Exclusive features in this unofficial driver:

- Equalizer

- CMSS and Stereo Surround with Stereo focus control

- Advanced EQ and Special FX available (see notes below)

- Dolby/DTS decoder (working on 32-bit/64-bit, requires Windows Vista Service Pack 1)

- DVD Audio (32-bit only)

- Hardware MIDI synthesizer (includes 2Mb, 4Mb and 8Mb SoundFont banks)

- 4 Gb RAM approved (tested on Intel C2D E6400, Gigabyte 965P-DS3, 4Gb RAM)
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