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MAC is for people that want to turn on their computer OSX is a good OS based on linux code. The bottom line is that OSX Leopard whatever in my opinion is hard as hell to use, you just have any control, you have ugly interfaces for audio or video production apps. With PC you get something for the hardcore people that wan't control and many many ways to get one things done. OSX = novice , XP = best OS , Vista = Worst OS . take your pic... No support for apps as well. Oh and don't install apple software on your PC ,, haha hoggy slow , nonsense ruins you unit and slows it down to crawl... thx,,,, just my opinion, don't have to agree. Go look @ Cakewalk screenshots then Logic screenshots and youll see my drift! For someone who is a producer , composer / Gamer ,,, , Server 2003 tech kicks ass.. No need for firewall, all ports all closed and in stealth. Plus no firewall works with it, The only thing is people can see your exisitince on the net.. Who cares LOL !!!
I have no clue what you said.

I would like to remind you that this isn't myspace.
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post #12 of 25
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MAC is for people that want to turn on their computer OSX is a good OS based on linux code. The bottom line is that OSX Leopard whatever in my opinion is hard as hell to use, you just have any control, you have ugly interfaces for audio or video production apps. With PC you get something for the hardcore people that wan't control and many many ways to get one things done. OSX = novice , XP = best OS , Vista = Worst OS . take your pic... No support for apps as well. Oh and don't install apple software on your PC ,, haha hoggy slow , nonsense ruins you unit and slows it down to crawl... thx,,,, just my opinion, don't have to agree. Go look @ Cakewalk screenshots then Logic screenshots and youll see my drift! For someone who is a producer , composer / Gamer ,,, , Server 2003 tech kicks ass.. No need for firewall, all ports all closed and in stealth. Plus no firewall works with it, The only thing is people can see your exisitince on the net.. Who cares LOL !!!
Do you even know what you just said?

I'll call you out on your hilarious "produce/composer" part. No one with your english "skills" is a producer or composer. Learn how to form sentences and paragraphs. Oh, you might also want to know the difference between a comma and an ellipsis.
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post #13 of 25
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MAC is for people that want to turn on their computer OSX is a good OS based on linux code. The bottom line is that OSX Leopard whatever in my opinion is hard as hell to use, you just have any control, you have ugly interfaces for audio or video production apps. With PC you get something for the hardcore people that wan't control and many many ways to get one things done. OSX = novice , XP = best OS , Vista = Worst OS . take your pic... No support for apps as well. Oh and don't install apple software on your PC ,, haha hoggy slow , nonsense ruins you unit and slows it down to crawl... thx,,,, just my opinion, don't have to agree. Go look @ Cakewalk screenshots then Logic screenshots and youll see my drift! For someone who is a producer , composer / Gamer ,,, , Server 2003 tech kicks ass.. No need for firewall, all ports all closed and in stealth. Plus no firewall works with it, The only thing is people can see your exisitince on the net.. Who cares LOL !!!
Wow, so many things wrong. First off your out of order:

Best OS is (in no particular order): OSX 10.5 / Vista x64 /your fav. Linux Distro


Worst: ME, most of the Apple OS's before OSX.


Second thing, try using OSX before bashing it.
    
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My macbook has two finger tap right clicking, which in my opinion is actually better than a right mouse button on a laptop
I would like a right-click laptop button. 2-finger + click is the same exact thing, though. It's nothing to trip about.

2-finger scrolling, however... I think that's great stuff. Much better than any "scroll pad" on the side of a touch pad. That's my opinion, of course.

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MAC is for people that want to turn on their computer OSX is a good OS based on linux code. The bottom line is that OSX Leopard whatever in my opinion is hard as hell to use, you just have any control, you have ugly interfaces for audio or video production apps. With PC you get something for the hardcore people that wan't control and many many ways to get one things done. OSX = novice , XP = best OS , Vista = Worst OS . take your pic... No support for apps as well. Oh and don't install apple software on your PC ,, haha hoggy slow , nonsense ruins you unit and slows it down to crawl... thx,,,, just my opinion, don't have to agree. Go look @ Cakewalk screenshots then Logic screenshots and youll see my drift! For someone who is a producer , composer / Gamer ,,, , Server 2003 tech kicks ass.. No need for firewall, all ports all closed and in stealth. Plus no firewall works with it, The only thing is people can see your exisitince on the net.. Who cares LOL !!!
I don't get what you said, what your point is, or anything.

First off, OSX is not, in fact, based on Linux whatsoever.

I wouldn't call it a "novice OS," but it is certainly easy for novices to use. Maybe it's "novice-oriented."

Calling XP the best and vista the worst is very subjective...

And for the record Linux is THE enthusiast's OS. Windows is the gamer's OS, and the slaves' OS (the people who require it for compatibility, companies, for example). OSX is the noob's OS, the media producer's OS, and the ones who want a low-maintenance system OS.

Oh, man. Kids, this post is a prime example why you need to pay attention in English class, no matter how pointless it may seem to you.

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Wow, so many things wrong. First off your out of order:

Best OS is (in no particular order): OSX 10.5 / Vista x64 /your fav. Linux Distro


Worst: ME, most of the Apple OS's before OSX.


Second thing, try using OSX before bashing it.
lol sounds pretty accurate to me. OSX, vista, and Linux (newest distros, and even tweaked out older ones) are the most advanced OSs we've seen today. And I think it's fair to say that their quality and reliability all exceed their predecessors', respectively.
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MAC is for people that want to turn on their computer OSX is a good OS based on linux code. The bottom line is that OSX Leopard whatever in my opinion is hard as hell to use, you just have any control, you have ugly interfaces for audio or video production apps. With PC you get something for the hardcore people that wan't control and many many ways to get one things done. OSX = novice , XP = best OS , Vista = Worst OS . take your pic... No support for apps as well. Oh and don't install apple software on your PC ,, haha hoggy slow , nonsense ruins you unit and slows it down to crawl... thx,,,, just my opinion, don't have to agree. Go look @ Cakewalk screenshots then Logic screenshots and youll see my drift! For someone who is a producer , composer / Gamer ,,, , Server 2003 tech kicks ass.. No need for firewall, all ports all closed and in stealth. Plus no firewall works with it, The only thing is people can see your exisitince on the net.. Who cares LOL !!!
.. Urm. Ok. Having all ports closed ISNT a good thing, and YOU DONT have all your ports closed.

The ports for HTTP, HTTPS, Telnet (maybe), FTP, SSH are open for sure, or else you wouldnt be able to do anything on the internet .

Then depending on the applications your running, you have to open ports either on your router, firewall, or both.

Edit: And yes, OS8 and OS9 wernt the best things in the world.. By any means. I dont like OS8 or OS9 (and they had security problems, well at least OS8 did). OSX is nice though, and I like it.
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I would like a right-click laptop button. 2-finger + click is the same exact thing, though. It's nothing to trip about.

2-finger scrolling, however... I think that's great stuff. Much better than any "scroll pad" on the side of a touch pad. That's my opinion, of course.
No, not 2 finger + click.

2 finger tap click. All you do is tap with 2 fingers instead of one.

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I don't get what you said, what your point is, or anything.

First off, OSX is not, in fact, based on Linux whatsoever.
Correct, it's based on UNIX, which Linux is based off of.

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I wouldn't call it a "novice OS," but it is certainly easy for novices to use. Maybe it's "novice-oriented."
I would. The entire system, Apple's site, the programs, everything is written and designed as if for someone who's never had to manually edit a config file in their life. It's actually somewhat annoying sometimes >.>

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Calling XP the best and vista the worst is very subjective...
And pointless. XP can't be the best because it's going, going, gone. Everyone had the same arguments when XP came out, against Win2000.

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And for the record Linux is THE enthusiast's OS. Windows is the gamer's OS, and the slaves' OS (the people who require it for compatibility, companies, for example). OSX is the noob's OS, the media producer's OS, and the ones who want a low-maintenance system OS.
Not sure how you mean with "enthusiast", but OK.

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lol sounds pretty accurate to me. OSX, vista, and Linux (newest distros, and even tweaked out older ones) are the most advanced OSs we've seen today. And I think it's fair to say that their quality and reliability all exceed their predecessors', respectively.
Linux, as far as a desktop OS, still isn't ready for prime, unfortunately. Ubuntu is doing some very exciting work, but it isn't quite there yet. As a server OS though I'd probably go nuts without it.
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.. Urm. Ok. Having all ports closed ISNT a good thing, and YOU DONT have all your ports closed.

The ports for HTTP, HTTPS, Telnet (maybe), FTP, SSH are open for sure, or else you wouldnt be able to do anything on the internet .

Then depending on the applications your running, you have to open ports either on your router, firewall, or both.

Edit: And yes, OS8 and OS9 wernt the best things in the world.. By any means. I dont like OS8 or OS9 (and they had security problems, well at least OS8 did). OSX is nice though, and I like it.
Actually, a proper firewall can have all ports filtered/closed without issue, and still have browsing and such work just fine. You only need OPEN ports when you are running a service, such as a webserver, SSH server, or hosting a game. When you send out a request over HTTP, your firewall expects a response to come back. Because it is expecting a response, it will open that port for that PC you contacted. However, if you are running a server, you don't know when a packet might come in or from who. So the port needs to be open at all times. UDP hole punching is an example of how some games nowadays (like Smash Bros Brawl) get around firewalls. It takes advantage of the firewall opening the port when you send a packet out.

Of course, most of this doesn't matter anyway, since a firewall is mostly useless for a home user. Just don't run any services and you won't have anything for a hacker to attack. Just because a port is "open" doesn't mean anything is listening there. Nothing listening = nothing to hack.
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MAC is for people that want to turn on their computer OSX is a good OS based on linux code. The bottom line is that OSX Leopard whatever in my opinion is hard as hell to use, you just have any control, you have ugly interfaces for audio or video production apps. With PC you get something for the hardcore people that wan't control and many many ways to get one things done. OSX = novice , XP = best OS , Vista = Worst OS . take your pic... No support for apps as well. Oh and don't install apple software on your PC ,, haha hoggy slow , nonsense ruins you unit and slows it down to crawl... thx,,,, just my opinion, don't have to agree. Go look @ Cakewalk screenshots then Logic screenshots and youll see my drift! For someone who is a producer , composer / Gamer ,,, , Server 2003 tech kicks ass.. No need for firewall, all ports all closed and in stealth. Plus no firewall works with it, The only thing is people can see your exisitince on the net.. Who cares LOL !!!
Man this made me laugh for a good 15 minutes. Don't do drugs kids.
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.. Urm. Ok. Having all ports closed ISNT a good thing, and YOU DONT have all your ports closed.

The ports for HTTP, HTTPS, Telnet (maybe), FTP, SSH are open for sure, or else you wouldnt be able to do anything on the internet .

Then depending on the applications your running, you have to open ports either on your router, firewall, or both.

Edit: And yes, OS8 and OS9 wernt the best things in the world.. By any means. I dont like OS8 or OS9 (and they had security problems, well at least OS8 did). OSX is nice though, and I like it.
No. All ports are closed inbound, which is 99% of the time, a good thing.
At least, new applications don't listen for connections, but initiate them on their own so that things that close all inbound ports see these connections as healthy (they were initiated by you, not somebody else) and allow incoming data on that connection.

This is true for all the protocols you stated - browsers connect to servers and your router, firewall, etc will allow this since you were the one to initiate the connection.
The only exception is FTP Active mode (the server is active -> it initiates the conn) but most clients default to PASV mode (the server is passive -> you initiate the conn)
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And for the record Linux is THE enthusiast's OS. Windows is the gamer's OS, and the slaves' OS (the people who require it for compatibility, companies, for example). OSX is the noob's OS, the media producer's OS, and the ones who want a low-maintenance system OS.
I 100% agree with you on this.
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