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I'm still confused where the extra $400 you paid comes in as a benefit? PCs can do schoolwork as well.

I guess what I'm curious about is why people are paying extra money for worse hardware? That is all. Someone has a logical explaination I'm sure, or it wouldn't be happening.
Hardware isn't everything. As the OS and quality of the computer are also important. Especially in a laptop. I have used my MacBook for a year and it has taken a beating and its still running strong. My Compaq laptop died within a few months.
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Lenovo T61p:

15.4" 1680 x 1050
T9300 (2.5Ghz / 800Mhz FSB / 6MB L2 / 45nm)
Windows Vista Ultimate
4GB DDR2-667
Nvidia QuadroFX 570M (8700GT)
200GB 7200RPM HDD
Intel 4965AGN Wifi
Integrated Bluetooth
9 cell battery
DVD Burner

$1609

That owns both the Mac Book and the Dell....
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Hardware isn't everything. As the OS and quality of the computer are also important. Especially in a laptop. I have used my MacBook for a year and it has taken a beating and its still running strong. My Compaq laptop died within a few months.
Really? I have been using my Desktop for 7 months now. No BSOD no thing. Its been running Vista from the get go.

Can you tell me what that means?

It means that you should stop implying that the competing Operating Systems are not reliable because chances are there is some OSN member out these who might be having trouble with Leopard.
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Really? I have been using my Desktop for 7 months now. No BSOD no thing. Its been running Vista from the get go.

Can you tell me what that means?

It means that you should stop implying that the competing Operating Systems are not reliable because chances are there is some OSN member out these who might be having trouble with Leopard.
I have never implied that, learn to read.

I said the OS was important, thats why some people buy macs, because they like the OS.
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Stop The Fighting For More Then 1 Thread Gawd

its like bickering little old ladies in here
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post #46 of 125
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Originally Posted by Marin View Post
Hardware isn't everything. As the OS and quality of the computer are also important. Especially in a laptop. I have used my MacBook for a year and it has taken a beating and its still running strong. My Compaq laptop died within a few months.
Dell, Pentium 3, 8 years old, works like day 1 other than the battery......seriously.

My Dell C2D is 14 months old, and was dropped on pavement from 3 feet in the air. Slight crack on plastic trim, but everything else is fine.

I hear very few comments about Dell's laptop quality in the last couple of years.

I have a 3 year old Pentium 4 Toshiba, also never had a problem with it.

My friend's Compaq is going on 2 years now, he plays WoW on that thing about 6 hours everynight. Never given him a problem. My in-laws have a 2 year old Toshiba, works great.

Quality is obviously debatable, so we'll call that one even. So, quality aside...$400, for the OS?

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Lenovo T61p:

15.4" 1680 x 1050
T9300 (2.5Ghz / 800Mhz FSB / 6MB L2 / 45nm)
Windows Vista Ultimate
4GB DDR2-667
Nvidia QuadroFX 570M (8700GT)
200GB 7200RPM HDD
Intel 4965AGN Wifi
Integrated Bluetooth
9 cell battery
DVD Burner

$1609

That owns both the Mac Book and the Dell....
Seriously good deal, if I were looking for a laptop right now I might've been asking for the link .
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Lenovo T61p:

15.4" 1680 x 1050
T9300 (2.5Ghz / 800Mhz FSB / 6MB L2 / 45nm)
Windows Vista Ultimate
4GB DDR2-667
Nvidia QuadroFX 570M (8700GT)
200GB 7200RPM HDD
Intel 4965AGN Wifi
Integrated Bluetooth
9 cell battery
DVD Burner

$1609

That owns both the Mac Book and the Dell....
Link?
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post #48 of 125
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Originally Posted by sh1v View Post
quit smoking!
Is that a joke?

1. You just compared a MacBook to an XPS "performance" laptop.
2. It's more expensive ($1300 vs $1800)

Quote:
Originally Posted by RonindeBeatrice View Post
Honestly? I think that some serious apple zealots were likely crashing the gate on this survey... Take a look at some of the insane comments left by these people...
Sorry, bro. I'm just defending what I know to be the truth. If I can be proven otherwise, I'm all open to change.

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Do you know how to reformat? you should, right? You just pop in the Vista CD and reformat. It takes 20mins. Is that too much to ask of your time?
Where did you get that vista CD? Oh, that's right! You had to buy it. Add that into the price there, mate.

Or did you mean the recovery CD? You don't really think dell/HP/w/e is THAT stupid and would let you off the hook that easy with the adware, did you?

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@Hundered Dollar Gamer, absolute joke mate.

I just configured a Ins 1530 @ Home Office from Dell.com


3yrs Warrarty > 1yr Warranty from apple. Again

Math > your opinion. I wish other people see the way.
That's real cute. How are you going to compare OSX ultimate to vista "home premium". Don't cut corners there, buddy. Windows doesn't need to cheat to win, does it?

Moreover, how do YOU know exactly what is in a MacBook? Do you own one? You're talking to a guy with first hand experience right here. I know EXACTLY what is in my system, so why would anyone trust you over me to customize a dell to match MY MacBook?

Follow my list, buddy. I did a thorough job and showed you EXACTLY what was customized in order to directly MATCH the MacBook.

I did an apples to apples comparison. I think I'm the only one here who went to school and knows how to use the scientific method and setup a test with controls and variables.

PS: Big freakin deal. Even though you skimped on some specs, the dell is only $38 cheaper. Are you kidding? I NEVER, EVER said Macs are cheaper (apparently that's what you thought I said, since every dollar is counting here.) My main point was that the price gap between Macs and other computers isn't all that large. And you proved my point, especially taking into consideration that the Mac is going to come with 1st party software, and the dell is going to come with adware that's going to bog down the system.

Thanks for proving my point.

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Originally Posted by lordikon View Post
I'll concede that a smaller 13-inch laptop might be a decent price point for Macs. And that is why the average joe is just fine with a mac. This happens to be an overclocking forum though, or so I thought.....performance makes a difference here more than most places.
Come on, now. This isn't an argument about "enthusiast this" or "enthusiast that."

A Mac user can still be an enthusiast, no? And not everything everyone here has is for "performance." We all come from all sorts of backgrounds. We have users here that use Pentium 2s and like to do Linux projects with them. We have people who talk about phones.

There's no reason to exclude Macs just because you can't overclock them.

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Originally Posted by lordikon View Post
I'm still confused where the extra $400 you paid comes in as a benefit? PCs can do schoolwork as well.
You have to understand that sometimes people are willing to pay extra for something that's going to do what they want, the way they want to do it. Personally for me, I like the way I can get my work done with a Mac. A windows computer can do it too, of course, but I use my computer all the time, and this is the environment I want to be surrounded by.

It's very simple: that's my personal preference.

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Originally Posted by lordikon View Post
I guess what I'm curious about is why people are paying extra money for worse hardware? That is all. Someone has a logical explaination I'm sure, or it wouldn't be happening.
Who exactly has the worse hardware? Last time I checked, Apple's boards were made by Asus, their CPUs by intel, the wireless by intel, the sound by intel...
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Originally Posted by silverwing View Post
You know what, I don't know why I even try. Ignorance is bliss I suppose.
oh the irony!

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Originally Posted by The Hundred Gunner View Post


Who exactly has the worse hardware? Last time I checked, Apple's boards were made by Asus, their CPUs by intel, the wireless by intel, the sound by intel...

Do you know what that is?

Its called a PC. Same thing made my Dell, HP , Lenova, Toshiba, Fujitsu , Asus , Acer and Gateway.

The only thing diffrent is Mac OSX. and it is not worth 400$
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Link?
www.lenovo.com/shop/deals/visa

Then use promo code USXAPRILSAVINGS.

Bam! You get super laptop for 1/2 price.
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