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I love my iPhone. Currently the only apple product I own, but I have no doubts that something better will be here by feb/mar 09.

In my head I've already replaced my iPhone with an android device or something better. But for now this is the device that gives me the Internet everywhere I go.
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Originally Posted by The Hundred Gunner View Post
It never ends...

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Anyway, this is a copy/paste from the other thread. I think it's about time you people take the red pill and become unplugged from the system. That system is our enemy. It is the system of lies and hate. I shall attempt to strike a blow at the system with the following weapon:



As zaccy001 adequately put:
You're right, math DOESN'T lie! The Dell is a 15.4 inch display where-as the Mac in question is a 13 inch display. Windows Vista Ultimate adds one hundred extra dollars onto the mix (and adds nothing in return but I'm sure you don't care about that).

So here's the higher quality Dell XPS 1330 (a 13.4 inch display with is as close as we're going to get to that micro-sized Apple) which has Home Prem. and no N-wireless card (both are wastes of money, but hey, who knows how to waste money MORE than someone that buys an overpriced Apple product?).



Go play with it on their website and tell me what'cha think. I'm 100% that the Dell is a higher quality machine as I've used both the 1330 and the MacBook and I'd rather the dell any day. But, though, I'm also a Windows guy and I have big hands which make that little Mac keyboard harder to use.

Now, the Apple Powerbook G3... THAT was a nice laptop. I can strip one to the system board in fifteen minutes and they seem to be nearly unkillable... Too bad Apple doesn't bring back THAT design. Oh well, I guess you have to get with market trends if you want to stay trendy!
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LoL why are we comparing Mac to Dell? We all know Dell sucks just like Mac and is overpriced just like Mac.
    
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I think that Apple makes very high quality, extremely User Friendly products. But I couldn't stand a Mac computer. I would get pissed off just by looking at it.
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I would get pissed off just by looking at it.
Same here

I find mac users slimmer because they burn so many calories talking about their macs and how great they are.
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Uh, sorry. But if you're loading in the *middle* of an FPS battle, a faster spinning HDD isn't going to do squat. If the game is being slowed during play by HDD loading at all - the problem is you're likely running out of memory space (RAM). Any data for in-game play should have been already placed into your memory (if you have enough).

The only difference you'll see (gaming-wise) with a faster spinning HDD, is the maps may load a few seconds quicker before the game. That's it.
You're right, I'm a game programmer, what would I know? You wouldn't possibly want to load any part of a level during gameplay in an FPS, I'm sure the whole damn level will fit into memory.

The fact is that if developers knew everyone had 2GB of ram free EVERYTIME their game was running, they could certainly load the entire level beforehand, this would cause crappy load times, but there would be no loading during gameplay every. However, developers usually have a minimum specification they must adhere to. If the game is designed to run with a minimum of 512mb of RAM free, most of the loading of resources will be designed with that in mind.
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Originally Posted by dglkn View Post
LoL why are we comparing Mac to Dell? We all know Dell sucks just like Mac and is overpriced just like Mac.
...Because that's what was originally used to compare? Dur?
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Overpaying for hardware is fashionably cool, apparently.
Or perhaps you're paying more for the better operating system and lots of great software out-of-the-box also?
 
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I think not including the Roxio is a good idea, since just like OSX comes with burning software, the Dell comes with Windows, which happens to come with burning software as well! (Wow! who would have thought!)
Last time I checked, windows doesn't have "actual" software you can use do CD/DVD maintenance work with. You can't do full/complete erases of CDs and DVDs, for example.

And I realized that the extra $60 seemed absurd for the roxio software. That's why I was fair and showed two prices, the one with and without. I'm not going to be a fanboy and just drop it in there just to make what I like (the Mac) look better. You see, that's what separates me from everyone else, and you can't deny that whether you like me or not.

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I think the Dell still comes out on top because you get to choose whether you want to pay more for more, or keep it under a budget. With Apple, you either blow the whole load, or don't get it at all. (A good example is the battery)
That's right. Like I said: As Astroz said, the problem is that Apple doesn't offer anything for the lower-end market. Essentially, if you're only on a $500-$1000 budget, Apple says "Sucks for you."

That's the way it is.

But once again, you missed my point. I'll restate it for you: the price gap between PC laptops and Mac laptops isn't incredibly large like some people are making it out to be. That's my point! Don't change the topic!

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Originally Posted by Dotard View Post
MacBook can run at 85 deg C btw.... O wait is that part of their 2 in 1 feature, a computing device AND heating device. How thoughtful... definitely wins my peanut vote
Actually, the Merom chips can run at 100C.

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I can't wait till the masses switch to Apple only to find out how frustrating it is to deal with the company (ever had a broken iPod?!).
Dunno. Knock on wood, I've never had to go in for service.

But I have heard that you can just walk in, tell them your problem, and in many cases (even not under warranty), they'll replace simple things. That's what I read on the MacRumors forum; there was a whole thread on "cracked MacBook cases," and lots of the guys said they just went in, told them the problem, and walked out with a new laptop case in 20 min.

Although I can't testify myself, that sounds like pretty good service to me.

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$2000 for a laptop when you can buy one for $1000 with Windows is a killer imo.
I just proved that the price gap between Macs and PCs isn't that big. Multiple times, too, if I might add. You must have been one of those who heeded my warning: "Apple haters, put on cover your ears and start screaming 'lalalala' right now!"

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As for the ipods. It's just a %$#^ing fashion statement. Reminds me of Pokemon cards in elementary school
Right, because no one in the world could possibly like an iPod. The only reason to ever own one is for fashion. That's it. Not for music, not because one would like it. Solely for fashion.

Smart.

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You're right, math DOESN'T lie! The Dell is a 15.4 inch display where-as the Mac in question is a 13 inch display.
Ok, so take off a few bucks for the dell. Big deal. I got it as CLOSE AS POSSIBLE, which is a major breakthrough on this forum, if I may say so myself. There is no one yet that has shown me a closer apples-to-apples comparison. And I'm going to show you why your test is invalid:

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Originally Posted by Guswut View Post
Windows Vista Ultimate adds one hundred extra dollars onto the mix (and adds nothing in return but I'm sure you don't care about that).
Adds nothing in return? Buddy, please. Spare me the agony and learn to read previous posts.

How in the world are you going to compare the crippled vista version "home premium" to OSX ultimate? That's ridiculous. That's absurd. Why must you cut corners to "win" this little thing?

OSX comes with backup features. "Home premium" does not. The "home business" version DOES.

OSX comes with media center features. Home business does NOT.

OSX comes with encryption features. home basic, home premium, and home business do NOT.

Vista ultimate is the ONLY version of windows we are going to use to compare to OSX ultimate. Isn't your PC so much better that you don't have to cheat to "beat" a Mac anyway?

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Originally Posted by Guswut View Post
So here's the higher quality Dell XPS 1330 (a 13.4 inch display with is as close as we're going to get to that micro-sized Apple) which has Home Prem. and no N-wireless card (both are wastes of money, but hey, who knows how to waste money MORE than someone that buys an overpriced Apple product?).
Let me tell you how the scientific method works. To set up a proper experiment, you set up controls and variables.

The controls for this test are the hardware and software. We want those to be EQUAL to each other.

The variable we are testing for is the PRICE. We want to see how those DIFFER.

So it goes like this: we want a setup AS EQUAL AS POSSIBLE between the Mac and PC laptops. THEN we are going to see how the PRICE differs.

By skimping on the full version of the OS and the wireless card, you rendered your own test invalid.

You earn an F in science.

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Originally Posted by Guswut View Post
You've got to be freakin kidding me. You're nit-picking $40? How about consider the bloatware, crapware and adware that subsidizes the price on the dell? How about consider all the 1st party software that the Apple is going to come with?

It strikes me as very ridiculous that you people have so much "hate" for a company that you would go out, skimp on features, then say "Hah, look, $40 cheaper!"

Once again, let me state my main point. The price gap between Mac and PC laptops is not incredibly large.

Anyway, thanks for proving my point. All you've shown us is that you can get a weaker dell computer for about $40 less. But you'll have to deal with less 1st party software and the adware that's going to come with it, though.

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Originally Posted by Guswut View Post
Go play with it on their website and tell me what'cha think.
I've played with configurations on dell, Lenovo, and HP's sites (you would have known that if you read through the thread). Tell you what I think? I think I was right. The price gap between Macs and PCs isn't all that large, especially considering the fact that you're going to have to deal with advertising on your PC computer.
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I thought it was google? I remember reading something about that recently....either way Apple sure has made a name for themselves with their marketing.
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