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The BFGTech GeForce 9800 GTX is a good product but it's not breaking any performance barriers or redefining our gaming experiences. The bundle is nothing to get excited about, but the video card itself is capable. The only problem we see is that the 9800 GTX isn't truly superior to the 8800 GTX it is intended to replace in terms of real world gaming performance. A “new” product that comes to market is usually considerably better performing than its predecessor, at least in the high end GPU space. That is not the case here. There is more fancy “green” technology in this 9800 GTX, which is of course a step in the right direction, but it does not shift any performance paradigms.

The 9800 GTX is ever-so-slightly faster than the GeForce 8800 GTX in most games and in at least one game, not. The GeForce 9800 GTX is showing up in stock this morning at Newegg for $329.99 from five add-in card partners. This seems to be a good value on this card and it is selling a bit lower than we expected on launch day. Comparing this directly to GeForce 8800 GTX stock we see the least expensive one of those selling for $289.99 after $50 MIR. That is simply a hell of a deal on an EVGA 8800 GTX. Get it while you can.

It is very much worth mentioning that the GeForce 9800 GTX is also compatible with the Hybrid SLI technology, which includes the well conceived HybridPower technology, allowing Windows Vista users to shut down their graphics card when not in use, saving energy and money. The HybridPower technology does not however support multiple displays or multiple video cards and that will render the feature useless for many enthusiast users that the card targets. Where NVIDIA’s Hybrid technology truly fails, for this launch at least, is that you cannot currently purchase any high end NVIDIA chipset based motherboards that support HybridPower. And if you are an Intel CPU user, it will likely be a good while before you can. NVIDIA has some good ideas here, but its execution is lacking.

If you were waiting for a monster gaming class “green” video card to support HD video decoding so you can finally make that living room HTPC into an HD gaming powerhouse: You have that in the GeForce 9800 GTX. Not only does it have PureVideo HD technology including HDCP and HDMI (with an adapter, not included), it produces relatively little heat, eats relatively little power, and has one of the quietest fans we’ve ever had the pleasure of not hearing.

The 9800 GTX is a not an upgrade for the gamer already using an 8800 GTX. There are a few reasons that the 9800 GTX is a better product than the 8800 GTX, but gaming is not one of them. If you are a gamer and were hoping to upgrade, today is not the day if you already own pretty much any 8800 series card. Here’s hoping real next-gen technology will be seen in a “9900” series soon. Considering the funky cloud this is likely to leave over the “9X00” moniker, NVIDIA will likely be better off moving a different direction with the next GeForce branding as this launch is likely to taint that somewhat.

The 9800 GTX is disappointing to the enthusiast and certainly confusing to those that are not in a position to understand the svelte changes that lie under the heatspreader.
Interesting read even though most of us will skip the 9xxx series and go straight to GT200

Looks like buying my GTs turned out to be the deal of the century!

For those of you who dont like H becauses of the way they benchmark (they actually PLAY the game, they do not bench the movies folks ), they have an apples-to-apples comparison in which all the graphics cards are set on the same resolutions.
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rep+ for another benchmark that proofs this:
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8800GTX Still on Top in Crysis

For Crysis, we would still recommend the GeForce 8800 GTX over any other card in this evaluation. For this game at least, the GeForce 9800 GTX is not an upgrade from an 8800 GTX.
so i'll wait for 9900GTX, the real deal
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In my opinion, the 9800GTX is not a worthy successor the 8800GTX.
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In my opinion, the 9800GTX is not a worthy successor the 8800GTX.
QFT my friend.

If the GT200 is as powerful as they say, it will be my next upgrade. For now, my 400$ worth of GT goodness has been the best setup I have ever owned.

It definitely beats my single GTX I had and my 3870 CF setup.
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QFT my friend.

If the GT200 is as powerful as they say, it will be my next upgrade. For now, my 400$ worth of GT goodness has been the best setup I have ever owned.

It definitely beats my single GTX I had and my 3870 CF setup.

The 9800GTX its NOT the GT200. So it is a FAIL in the eyes of a large boost in performance.
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For those of you who dont like H becauses of the way they benchmark (they actually PLAY the game, they do not bench the movies folks ), they have an apples-to-apples comparison in which all the graphics cards are set on the same resolutions.
Yeah, but PLAYING the game introduces another variable into the situation that adds unnecessary error in their data, a tree could move a different way, a AI bird could fly by, somewhere off in the distance an NPC could be throwing grenades, who knows? and those extra inconsistencies can add or subtract many fps from the averages. And on top of that, they don't play at the same settings, which is ridiculous.

E.g. Card X is playing at maximum settings and a explosion happens in the distance, higher definition explosion means a larger drop in fps.
Card Y is playing at everything high but the effects setting, explosion happens, smaller drop in fps.

Everything just seems wrong to me in the [H] reviews... I kind of wish they would just stop trying to be such non-conformists and conform already lol
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