Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Hardware News › [cnet] After 38 years new memory is on the horizon!
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

[cnet] After 38 years new memory is on the horizon! - Page 3

post #21 of 27
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamakazi View Post
So do we really need this? Seems like mobos/CPUs can barely keep up with current RAM (and DDR3 which is always getting faster), and nothing really uses the 16GB you can get pretty easily these days, other than perhaps workstations.

Although if this could some how many SSDs cheaper, that would be cool.
Are you kidding? It's the RAM that can't keep up with the CPU. That's the whole reason for elaborate CPU caching and the upcoming integrated memory controllers for Nehalem. CPUs operate SO much faster than RAM does that we could always use faster memory. RAM is a bottleneck that is avoided by elaborate caching strategies.

However, I don't think this article is about RAM at all... it talks about using this new memory for storage, like flash. They don't even mention RAM. Is this new stuff faster than RAM? Would it even be possible to use it as RAM? These are questions the article does not address at all.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q6600 G0 @ 3.24GHz w/ 1.36v (L724A760) Gigabyte P35-DS3R rev 1.0 EVGA GTX 285 1GB + ? BIOS (720c/1512s/1377m) 8GB G.Skill PQ @ 1000MHz 5-5-5-15 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
2x320GB 7200.11 Raid0 + 750GB 7200.11 for Storage Samsung SH-S203B Windows 7 Pro x64 Samsung T260HD 1920x1200 + Samsung 226BW 1680x1050 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Saitek Eclipse II PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750W Antec Nine Hundred Razer DeathAdder 
Mouse Pad
Razer Destructor 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q6600 G0 @ 3.24GHz w/ 1.36v (L724A760) Gigabyte P35-DS3R rev 1.0 EVGA GTX 285 1GB + ? BIOS (720c/1512s/1377m) 8GB G.Skill PQ @ 1000MHz 5-5-5-15 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
2x320GB 7200.11 Raid0 + 750GB 7200.11 for Storage Samsung SH-S203B Windows 7 Pro x64 Samsung T260HD 1920x1200 + Samsung 226BW 1680x1050 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Saitek Eclipse II PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750W Antec Nine Hundred Razer DeathAdder 
Mouse Pad
Razer Destructor 
  hide details  
Reply
post #22 of 27
Ahhhhhhhhh hehe Torch LOVES stuff that melts for a good reason haha.....
Torch's Rig
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
E6750 w/G0 ASUS P5KC Sapphire HD5770 1GB 4 GB G.Skill DDR3 1333 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
ADATA S510 120GB SSD, (2)Samsung F3 1TB, Seaga... Asus SATA DVD LinuxMint 13 x86 w/Mate Asus 23" HD 1080p HDMI LED LCD 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Microsoft Sidewinder X4 610w PC Power & Cool Silencer Rosewill Blackbone Logitech G400 
Mouse Pad
DOLICA 
  hide details  
Reply
Torch's Rig
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
E6750 w/G0 ASUS P5KC Sapphire HD5770 1GB 4 GB G.Skill DDR3 1333 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
ADATA S510 120GB SSD, (2)Samsung F3 1TB, Seaga... Asus SATA DVD LinuxMint 13 x86 w/Mate Asus 23" HD 1080p HDMI LED LCD 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Microsoft Sidewinder X4 610w PC Power & Cool Silencer Rosewill Blackbone Logitech G400 
Mouse Pad
DOLICA 
  hide details  
Reply
post #23 of 27
Umm, the PCM in this article will not be used as ram, it's a replacement for NOR/NAND flash.

This stuff would make some phenomenally slow RAM. 70-100ns? I had 70ns FPM dram in 1995.

Again, "memory" does not always refer to RAM.
Primary
(15 items)
 
Secondary
(13 items)
 
In progress
(10 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
5820K @ 4.2/3.5GHz core/uncore, 1.175/1.15v Gigabyte X99 SOC Champion (F22n) Gigabyte AORUS GTX 1080 Ti (F3P) @ 2025/1485, 1... 4x4GiB Crucial @ 2667, 12-12-12-28-T1, 1.34v 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Plextor M6e 128GB (fw 1.06) M.2 (PCI-E 2.0 2x) 2x Crucial M4 256GB 4x WD Scorpio Black 500GB Noctua NH-D15 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 BenQ BL3200PT Filco Majestouch Tenkeyless (MX Brown) Corsair RM1000x 
CaseMouseAudio
Fractal Design Define R4 Logitech G402 Realtek ALC1150 + M-Audio AV40 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
X5670 @ 4.4/3.2GHz core/uncore, 1.36 vcore, 1.2... Gigabyte X58A-UD5 r2.0 w/FF3mod10 BIOS Sapphire Fury Nitro OC+ @ 1053/500, 1.225vGPU/1... 2x Samsung MV-3V4G3D/US @ 2000, 10-11-11-30-T1,... 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
1x Crucial BLT4G3D1608ET3LX0 @ 2000, 10-11-11-3... OCZ (Toshiba) Trion 150 120GB Hyundai Sapphire 120GB 3x Hitachi Deskstar 7k1000.C 1TB 
CoolingOSPowerCase
Noctua NH-D14 Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 Antec TP-750 Fractal Design R5 
Audio
ASUS Xonar DS 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-6800K @ 4.3/3.5GHz core/uncore, 1.36/1.2v ASRock X99 OC Formula (P3.10) GTX 780 (temporary) 4x4GiB Crucial DDR4-2400 @ 11-13-12-28-T2, 1.33v 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Intel 600p 256GB NVMe 2x HGST Travelstar 7k1000 1TB Corsair H55 (temporary) Windows Server 2016 Datacenter 
PowerCase
Seasonic SS-860XP2 Corsair Carbide Air 540 
  hide details  
Reply
Primary
(15 items)
 
Secondary
(13 items)
 
In progress
(10 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
5820K @ 4.2/3.5GHz core/uncore, 1.175/1.15v Gigabyte X99 SOC Champion (F22n) Gigabyte AORUS GTX 1080 Ti (F3P) @ 2025/1485, 1... 4x4GiB Crucial @ 2667, 12-12-12-28-T1, 1.34v 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Plextor M6e 128GB (fw 1.06) M.2 (PCI-E 2.0 2x) 2x Crucial M4 256GB 4x WD Scorpio Black 500GB Noctua NH-D15 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 BenQ BL3200PT Filco Majestouch Tenkeyless (MX Brown) Corsair RM1000x 
CaseMouseAudio
Fractal Design Define R4 Logitech G402 Realtek ALC1150 + M-Audio AV40 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
X5670 @ 4.4/3.2GHz core/uncore, 1.36 vcore, 1.2... Gigabyte X58A-UD5 r2.0 w/FF3mod10 BIOS Sapphire Fury Nitro OC+ @ 1053/500, 1.225vGPU/1... 2x Samsung MV-3V4G3D/US @ 2000, 10-11-11-30-T1,... 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
1x Crucial BLT4G3D1608ET3LX0 @ 2000, 10-11-11-3... OCZ (Toshiba) Trion 150 120GB Hyundai Sapphire 120GB 3x Hitachi Deskstar 7k1000.C 1TB 
CoolingOSPowerCase
Noctua NH-D14 Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 Antec TP-750 Fractal Design R5 
Audio
ASUS Xonar DS 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-6800K @ 4.3/3.5GHz core/uncore, 1.36/1.2v ASRock X99 OC Formula (P3.10) GTX 780 (temporary) 4x4GiB Crucial DDR4-2400 @ 11-13-12-28-T2, 1.33v 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Intel 600p 256GB NVMe 2x HGST Travelstar 7k1000 1TB Corsair H55 (temporary) Windows Server 2016 Datacenter 
PowerCase
Seasonic SS-860XP2 Corsair Carbide Air 540 
  hide details  
Reply
post #24 of 27
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Muhahahaha View Post
Are you kidding? It's the RAM that can't keep up with the CPU. That's the whole reason for elaborate CPU caching and the upcoming integrated memory controllers for Nehalem. CPUs operate SO much faster than RAM does that we could always use faster memory. RAM is a bottleneck that is avoided by elaborate caching strategies.

However, I don't think this article is about RAM at all... it talks about using this new memory for storage, like flash. They don't even mention RAM. Is this new stuff faster than RAM? Would it even be possible to use it as RAM? These are questions the article does not address at all.
Aye thats the jist of it, this tech is not for system RAM. The memory we are
discussing is a non magnetic based , faster, and more durable version of
the "memory" used in SSD storage, flash , camera cards, BIOS, and other
items used for long term storage. Has absolutly nothing to do with FSB
memory architechture at all.
GeN xXx
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 2500k MSI Z68A-GD65b3 Zotac GTX 570 Patriot 25yr DDR3 8-8-8-24-38 @1600 1.65v 
Optical DriveOSMonitorPower
SONY SATA DL/DVD +- Win 7 64bit 21.6" 1080p Corsair GS700 
Case
Xigmatek Pantheon 
  hide details  
Reply
GeN xXx
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 2500k MSI Z68A-GD65b3 Zotac GTX 570 Patriot 25yr DDR3 8-8-8-24-38 @1600 1.65v 
Optical DriveOSMonitorPower
SONY SATA DL/DVD +- Win 7 64bit 21.6" 1080p Corsair GS700 
Case
Xigmatek Pantheon 
  hide details  
Reply
post #25 of 27
Quote:
Originally Posted by Muhahahaha View Post
Are you kidding? It's the RAM that can't keep up with the CPU. That's the whole reason for elaborate CPU caching and the upcoming integrated memory controllers for Nehalem. CPUs operate SO much faster than RAM does that we could always use faster memory. RAM is a bottleneck that is avoided by elaborate caching strategies.

However, I don't think this article is about RAM at all... it talks about using this new memory for storage, like flash. They don't even mention RAM. Is this new stuff faster than RAM? Would it even be possible to use it as RAM? These are questions the article does not address at all.
then why is it that performance doesn't go up when you get faster ram? i personally went from DDR2 800 to DDR2 1066 and there wasn't any difference in performance in almost any applications.
post #26 of 27
It could be that your mother board doesn't support the higher speed ram.
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardOS
Pentium 4 w/HT Intel i945P Windows XP Pro 
  hide details  
Reply
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardOS
Pentium 4 w/HT Intel i945P Windows XP Pro 
  hide details  
Reply
post #27 of 27
Quote:
Originally Posted by {core2duo}werd View Post
then why is it that performance doesn't go up when you get faster ram? i personally went from DDR2 800 to DDR2 1066 and there wasn't any difference in performance in almost any applications.
Drop in some DDR2-3000 then.

266MHz isn't really that much faster and the memory controller is optimized for RAM running slower than L2/3 currently.
Once again...
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 [4.28GHz, HT] Asus P6T + Broadcom NetXtreme II VisionTek HD5850 [900/1200] + Galaxy GT240 2x4GB G.Skill Ripjaw X [1632 MHz] 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Intel X25-M 160GB + 3xRAID0 500GB 7200.12 Window 7 Pro 64 Acer H243H + Samsung 226BW XARMOR-U9BL  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Antec Truepower New 750W Li Lian PC-V2100 [10x120mm fans] Logitech G9 X-Trac Pro 
  hide details  
Reply
Once again...
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 [4.28GHz, HT] Asus P6T + Broadcom NetXtreme II VisionTek HD5850 [900/1200] + Galaxy GT240 2x4GB G.Skill Ripjaw X [1632 MHz] 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Intel X25-M 160GB + 3xRAID0 500GB 7200.12 Window 7 Pro 64 Acer H243H + Samsung 226BW XARMOR-U9BL  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Antec Truepower New 750W Li Lian PC-V2100 [10x120mm fans] Logitech G9 X-Trac Pro 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Hardware News
Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Hardware News › [cnet] After 38 years new memory is on the horizon!