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post #11 of 43
Well, its a no go for me with the 9800GX2. With the monitor connectors the way they are positioned it is impossible for me to plug in my monitor with my WC radiator in the way like it is.
post #12 of 43
that sucks, what a bummer...
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I think its a good move cuz you dont have to had spent $650 to get a non finished cards thats a pretty big investment and well probably by the time the drivers are running smoother the cards will hopefully be $500 or lower (then i can step up the 9800GTX i just got )
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I should make it clear that I am not saying this is a crap card, it definetly has its advantages over the Ultra. If you own one of these, don't take my personal experience as an afront to your purchase.
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post #15 of 43
is the 9800gx2 stacked 8800gt or 8800gtx?

im sure it is indeed a great card either way, but i cant justify 650$ for a card that still struggles and gets low fps on new games.... IMO its smarter to wait for something that really is new(nothing new about the 9800gx2 if its only a stacked 8800gtx) and powerful with new technology, a real single-gpu with 1.5 or 2gb of memory, 512-bit or more, better clock speed and efficiency .... sooner or later they will come out with something like this and even better, and i hope it won't take too long cuz lots of new games are coming out and that are already out that requires lot of graphic processing...

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post #16 of 43
did you happen to use the HDMI? how about the temps? does it make the inside of the case a bit toasty?
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No I used the DVI cable. The temps were slightly lower 5C then my Ultra. I didn't notice any differences in overall system temperatures being effected.

The issue I am talking about and I believe some of the other guys that have piped up in this thread, is almost impossible to relay via benchmarks and forum posts. There is definetly something wrong with the card I had (I don't know if it applies to every card). In my current situation I would have to say that even if the card was being sold for $250 I would NOT trade in my Ultra. The Ultra plays any game smooth, granted the overall FPS will be lower but the gameplay is smooth and almost always playable. The same can not be said for the card I recently bought and returned. I should make it known that I sampled every driver released up to the 174.74 version.
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post #18 of 43
hmm, i have been having the opposite experience with my quad sli, it is choppy in the crysis benchmark, but game play is silky smooth and the image quality with the latest drivers is great.
post #19 of 43
I'm running SLI 8800GTs g92s... I can attest to perf just not being up to snuff, maybe not as bad as him, but I have figured out that my CPU is mostly to blame.
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post #20 of 43
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C'mon you already knew the price performance sucked. It was splashed over every review and test.

Also drivers are still pretty early at this stage, and although they suck if you had waited it out you would have seen more gain.

But in the end you did the right choice by getting rid of the thing.
The price/performance is always awful for new flagships. Once they drop in price, this ratio increases greatly.

We tend to compare a high mid-range and a flagship and you notice that the differences aren't amazing. 8800GTS 640 vs the GTX (6 months back), you pay an extra $100 for what, an extra 15 FPS on average? You compare an 8800GTS 512 to a 9800 GTX and you see the same result, about 10 FPS average more, and $100-$150 more. These small increases are rather expensive, so truthfully, no flagship has a good price/performance ratio.

Now, you could get a GTS 512 for what, $250? Using the step-up, I can pay $270 and get the 9800 GX2 and have a whole lot better performance. Sure, technically I am paying full price for it but since I bought the GTS 512 in January, I won't feel any price impact right now. So that's $20 more than a GTS 512 with more than 2x the performance (sure you could SLI 2 512's, but that requires an SLI mobo and not all games are optimized for SLI, and SLI scaling tends to be pretty bad so you pay 2x for a 30% increase at best), so the price/performance ratio is outstanding if you go with the step-up, so long as the price paid isn't felt due to a 3-month gap in purchase dates. The cool thing is that with the step-up program, eVGA goes off of the price you paid and not the current depreciated value like you encounter on eBay.

I am only going so far as to even consider step-up because I paid $350 for my GTS 512, so that knocks off $350 from the GX2 price. If I try to sell it on eBay I would be lucky to walk away with $180. Some of us fall into the category of early GTS 512 purchasers, so the step-up isn't such a bad deal.

Now, what you also might want to consider is the 9800 GTX. Not for it's upsides, but to consider the fact that it performs not too far above an overclocked 8800GTX. Again, you could SLI 2 9800 GTX's but not all games will benefit, and you end up paying $660 for 2 cards that just meets or barely beats (on average) a single GX2.

Keep in mind that the GX2 is still a new card, and drivers for it aren't spectacular. Once more refined drivers are released, performance should kick up a tad and stability increased. Stuttering in-game sounds to me like a driver issue, but you also may have a slightly defective unit (can't expect every piece of hardware to be perfect as you sometimes even get units that are dead on arrival). The majority of GX2 users will notice no stuttering and experience great performance in a single card solution instead of going through the trouble of SLI. I certainly don't see the necessity of SLI, and my single-PCI-Express motherboard can attest to this. It's always better to have a single very strong video card than go through the hassle of SLI, and frankly, SLI is a total rip-off. Tri-SLI? Jeez.

A GX2 could very easily hold a gamer over until the next major flagship (9900 GX2?) and during that time, better drivers will come out and some of the early issues will get ironed out.

To end on a different note, what is nVidia planning on doing beyond 9900? What sort of numbering system will be used? Will it go back to the real early days where their video cards had names instead of numbers (Vanta, Alladin, Voodoo, etc)? How about "The next performance milestone: nVidia BYFI (Beat Your Face In)! With 2 gigs of DDR4, 700 stream processors, and the ability to fold space!"
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