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This build is for a friend who just wants a new system for gaming. He didn't give an exact budget but I can tell he wants it under $1000. He already has a monitor (simple 19" LCD) and other peripherals. Mail-in rebates are ok with him. He doesn't need a huge HDD, he has a 250GB atm. I'll be overclocking this rig for him. He has a 32-bit version of XP, but has free access to 64-bit XP Professional through our schools MSDNAA as well as 32-bit Vusta Business (but no Vista 64-bit, sad face).

Here's what I have so far:

$200 - Q6600 (Microcenter pickup)
$225 - BFG 8800GTS (G92) 512MB (after $30 MIR)
$90 - Gigabyte DS3L
$55 - Corsair 450VX (after $15 MIR)
$50 - Tuniq Tower
$80 - SG 320GB HDD
$80 - CM RC-690 Case
$30 - 20x DVD Burner w/ Lightscribe
$30 - S&H
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$840 before memory

Plz make any suggestions to the above, but here's my main concern. 2x1GB is nice and cheap but it might be outdated in a year or two. So he could go Vista Business 32-bit but he'd be limited to ~3.4GB memory. However, the only 64-bit OS he can get for free is XP Professional, and I've heard bad things about XP 64-bit drivers. Also, if I get him 2x1GB now, he can't upgrade to 2x2GB later without clearing the overclock, and I'm moving out of state in 2 months so he'd be SOL.

So here's the big question:
A) 2x1GB Ballistix for $29 and FREE Vista Business 32-bit; can't upgrade without permanently losing his overclock
B) 2x2GB G.Skill for $85 and FREE XP Professional 64-bit; could upgrade to Vista 64-bit for $100 at any time and keep his overclock
C) 2x2GB G.Skill for $85 and Vista 64-bit Home Premium for $105

I'm leaning toward A) as it's very cheap, but I'm concerned that 2x1GB will be outdated before his other parts. It should also be pointed out that the 2x2GB probably won't overclock quite as well as the 2x1GB. Opinions please, and as mentioned earlier, feel free to critique the other parts of the build.
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post #2 of 14
I seem to run fine on 4x1gb crucial ballistix with a 3.3ghz overclock... But I really regret getting 4x1gb of sticks..

I choose option B go for XP pro 64-bit and then just wait when the new Windows 7 comes out..
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Do you have experience with XP 64-bit drivers? I've heard lots of hardware and software doesn't have driver support for that OS but I've only used 32-bit XP so I have no first-hand knowledge.
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post #4 of 14
Nice build. I would go for option A. 2GB is fine in most cases.
post #5 of 14
Nice build and nice parts.

Id choose option B).
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post #6 of 14
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Originally Posted by linskingdom View Post
Nice build. I would go for option A. 2GB is fine in most cases.
Yea I'm leaning toward that since it's completely fine for today's systems, just trying to guess at the future which is usually futile. I'd go option A) in a heartbeat for my own system since I could always re-overclock if I ever upgraded to 2x2GB, but since he can't overclock and I'll be gone it's making me hesitate a bit. The cost of 2x2GB and Vista 64-bit just seems too much to merely add a little more future-proofing, and I'm hesitant to go XP 64-bit and risk having certain programs not function properly. I guess 2x1GB it is.

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Originally Posted by i_ame_killer_2 View Post
Nice build and nice parts.

Id choose option B).
Same question to you as I asked of vuxdu, do you have any experience with XP Prof 64-bit? I'm wondering if the driver issues are mainly rumors or true. I don't think I can take option B) without someone with first hand experience with XP 64-bit to give me a quick run-down of any issues they've had.
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post #7 of 14
I'd bite the bullet now, and go for option C). Driver support of XP Pro 64-bit is notoriously bad, and he'll want to upgrade to Vista quickly.

OR:

Option D) 2x2GB G.Skill for $85 and FREE XP Professional 32-bit; could upgrade to Vista 64-bit for $100 at any time and keep his overclock

That way he doesn't have to spend the extra $100 right away, still can upgrade when wanted, and he WILL have ~3.4GB of RAM! The 'loss' of RAM due to a 32-bit OS isn't *that* dramatic. The big plus is that he doesn't have to battle the driver problems of 64-bit XP, and the upgrade to Vista can go without overclock loss.
    
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post #8 of 14
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Originally Posted by Chozart View Post
I'd bite the bullet now, and go for option C). Driver support of XP Pro 64-bit is notoriously bad, and he'll want to upgrade to Vista quickly.

OR:

Option D) 2x2GB G.Skill for $85 and FREE XP Professional 32-bit; could upgrade to Vista 64-bit for $100 at any time and keep his overclock

That way he doesn't have to spend the extra $100 right away, still can upgrade when wanted, and he WILL have ~3.4GB of RAM! The 'loss' of RAM due to a 32-bit OS isn't *that* dramatic. The big plus is that he doesn't have to battle the driver problems of 64-bit XP, and the upgrade to Vista can go without overclock loss.

Yea, or even go with the Vista Business 32-bit that's free and 2x2GB. I was looking at the wrong RAM when I quoted $85, it's actually $100 for CAS4 DDR2 800 or DDR2 1000 G.Skill. Any idea how this often recommended 2x2GB G.Skill would overclock in comparison to the single sided 2x1GB Ballistix? Probably about the same right?
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post #9 of 14
I think that G.Skill will indeed overclock similarly. Nice RAM.

I personally would take one of these two choices for a gaming rig:
1) 32-bit XP (still the better OS for gaming)
2) 64-bit Vista (the best choice for a 4GB gaming rig).

Thus, I'd take 32-bit XP-Pro over 32-bit Vista Business. But if 64-bit comes into play, Vista Home Premium (or Ultimate) is the winner.
    
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post #10 of 14
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Originally Posted by durch View Post
Yea, or even go with the Vista Business 32-bit that's free and 2x2GB. I was looking at the wrong RAM when I quoted $85, it's actually $100 for CAS4 DDR2 800 or DDR2 1000 G.Skill. Any idea how this often recommended 2x2GB G.Skill would overclock in comparison to the single sided 2x1GB Ballistix? Probably about the same right?
Tried few sets of these GSkill (800 and 1000) and Crucial ram (800 and 1066) in the past. I could not tell the difference except the Crucial ram has higher (not that much) OC than GSkill.
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