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post #31 of 62
i have seen ur stuff on realm of excursion. ha.^^^

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Im late to this nice topic,but if you looking into the best of the best you need to go DD route.If money is no problem.
Look like almost nobody here know the real champions in db's.Anyone here went to SBN in daytona the last weekend?
DD stuff is really good stuff, they obviously get LOUD, but I think they lack in the SQ department. had a 9515 before my treo 18''. was a beast took 3k daily. was still going when i sold it.
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post #32 of 62
DD makes good SPL stuff, most definitely, but not the best in SQ. I'm thinking about lapping my subwoofers to get some more DB
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LMAO. might be worth a shot. LOL
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post #34 of 62
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Originally Posted by C-bro View Post
Agreed. A decent quality 12" or a pair of 10" in a sealed enclosure will give you tight, responsive bass. I know almost nothing about techno/trance but it's my understanding that there are a lot of fast precise beats. With something larger than 12 or something in a ported enclosure you run the risk of the beats becoming "muddied" into a sort of single rumble. Now of course there are always exceptions, but as a rule of thumb sealed + 10/12 will deliver an excellent bang for your buck. Just be sure to match your drivers to the proper enclosure size (or better yet build your own).

As far as brands I think pretty well everyone has mentioned the decent buys and the ones to stay away from.
I'd agree. If you haven't heard a good system before, 10" subs are good for hard, quick bass and are (usually) very responsive. 15" subs are good for low, long bass. 12" subs are a good sacrifice between the two - I think trance has some of each type of bass, but mostly hard-hitting.

A good 10"/12" sub, an appropriate box, and the right amount of power can make the bass feel like someone is punching you in the chest.

The kicker (no pun intended) is going to be finding what you want to buy - there are so many car audio parts/brands/components out there at so many different price points. Personally, I like to go with old and new. I'm a huge Orion and Rockford Fosgate fan (the old stuff, not the new), so when I went to build my first system in high school, I went used for the amp and subwoofer. I've since sold the system and am currently going without subs. I bought an old MTX Blue Thunder Pro amp for my mids/highs about 3 years ago, and it has served me well ever since.

These are the two components I had in high school:

Rockford 400x4 (when their amps rocked)...


+

Orion XTR sub...


I miss them! I shouldn't have sold them!!!!

EDIT: These aren't my pics, I don't have any pics of them in my Chevy Celebrity when I was in high school. Sorry.
    
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post #35 of 62
Do NOT buy the amps off ebay quoting 6 million, thousand watts peak, theyre crap and only push about 25 watts rms, i personally have a briged 2 channel 400 watt amp powering a dls open air 12 sub (need a bung for the port), plus 2x2 channel amps powering 2x2 door speakers, the thing is, you need to listen to the type of music YOU like on other peoples setups to see what sounds best for you, i like old school rock, dio, iron maiden, deep purple, led zeppelin etc the best policy is to listen and learn....
    
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Do NOT buy the amps off ebay quoting 6 million, thousand watts peak, theyre crap and only push about 25 watts rms, i personally have a briged 2 channel 400 watt amp powering a dls open air 12 sub (need a bung for the port), plus 2x2 channel amps powering 2x2 door speakers, the thing is, you need to listen to the type of music YOU like on other peoples setups to see what sounds best for you, i like old school rock, dio, iron maiden, deep purple, led zeppelin etc the best policy is to listen and learn....
Exactly! Hit up as many places and people as you can and listen to as much as you can to get a feel for what you like. Everyone's tastes are different, just like with PCs.
    
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post #37 of 62
I cannot believe nobody has mentioned Pioneer yet! Pioneer makes some excellent SOUND QUALITY subwoofers if you use them in the proper sealed box. It sounds to me like you're wanting sealed based off your type of music. I'd suggest (personally) some good 400w + RMS Pioneer 12's (or Premier), and a good 600+ RMS watt mono block amp.

Now why am I suggesting more power than the subs need?
Simple. More power is better than not enough power. More power available means the amp won't get as hot and distortion levels will stay down since the amp gains are down.

I'd say get a 12" Premier basic model (not the flat, not the competition series), put it in a 1.75 cu. ft. box (or two of them, each in that size box), and run a GOOD 600+w RMS mono block amp to it. It'll be nice and quick, but it'll also hit those really DEEP low tones that rap / hip-hop is famous for.

My old car consisted of 3 Pioneer Premier 5000SPL's, 6 MTX 1501D's, 2 MTX 250.2's, and Pioneer REV series all around the car. I miss that setup...it will be missed. I could hit 160+ dB all day long, and it sounded absolutely GREAT.
 
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160+ db's all day long?You have any proof or a meter pic's to back up that?I was this past saturday in SBN in daytona and meet the world record holder in spl.Pioneer are good woofers too i hit 141 db's in legal competition with the TL meter.
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post #39 of 62
I build systems as another hobby, and worked for installation for 2 company's. Many people are fan boys when it comes to car audio as well...so dont listen to everything you hear. Give me your aim and i could help alot. And i could even build you a system through a good site if you wanted.
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My opinion. NONE of you are getting 160db, and if you are your a fricking pro. Steve meade is getting 160 db from 30,000 watts to 8 18' FI btl subwoofers. So stop lying
want proof noone on here has that ammount of pound?

watch that
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