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Actually i have no clue what you look like nor do i care, I was not trying to aggrivate you or anything in the least however you seem to have taken offense.
I also do not believe having a high number of posts means you have recognition, It is obvious at least to me the people around here who know whats goin on. I dont look at how many posts they have .

With regard to your issues, idk about the chipset that much, if its true the memtiming divider doesnt matter even when in infancy stages of overclocking. I belive i offered that advice a while ago, but i dont think you ever tried it as the guides explained 1 step at a time. Although i didnt mention it in the previous post. I did start that way. originally with the ram at 1:1 until i got the cpu stable then i started with changing the ram divider. Thats all i think i can offer you . Maybe its worthless to you IDK

Seriously youll be overclocking forever if you went 5 mhz and stress tested for 10 hrs. using your schedule you could do 5 mhz a day thats if your tests were flawless. so i dunno what kinda life you lead that may be perfect for you. for me i was happy with jumping in and being done with my oc after a few days. got curious when i got my ram back from rma and fiddled some more,getting a new cooler and some fans my rig is cherry. Im done

This is the part where i say your kinda getting on my nerves, either its me or its you. its in your sig so im gonna take this time to mention it. All i try to do is help people here i ask for help in return. I wasnt breakin your balls .

Well, all I was thinking was that I was looking for help, not for somebody to say something like "so is this how you racked up 1k posts?..." I mean, I didn't think that was necessary.

But I do apologize. Every so often, I run into this wall with people where I'm like the dumbest person they've ever met, and all they want to do is get away from me, and in some cases, the person would celebrate my death. I put that in my signature to see if I could lower the chances of that happening.

This is a social disability. There are many social things that come naturally to people, but I have to learn them, and once I learn them, I have to consciously remember to use what I've learned. It's not a natural reaction.

All I want to do is be like you guys and be able to finish this overclock. Also, I'm very sorry about the past. I was too ignorant to take your instruction, and I realize that now.

I'm sorry. I didn't mean for it to come to this. But I guess I just didn't think that comment was necessary. I didn't understand your intentions behind it, so I ignorantly assumed the worst.
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1.) OC'ing in small increments, I always imagined, was done so it wouldn't "shock" or "scare" the components with the sudden major change in voltage/timings/frequency/etc.

2.) Lately I've seen you get antsy and on the offensive here around OCN; what gives, dude?
You're right. I don't know. But I am worried about it.
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Dude it really sounds to me you are fine so don't be so hard on yourself!
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I usually start at the top and work my way down. I'll make an educated guess at what the component can do, set that speed, and start stress testing. When the test fails I drop it down a good bit. If it passes I go up. It's like trying to guess a number and being told if you are too low or too high, untill you hit the correct one.

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1.) OC'ing in small increments, I always imagined, was done so it wouldn't "shock" or "scare" the components with the sudden major change in voltage/timings/frequency/etc.
There is no basis for such an idea.

The same OC will be achived, with the same stability, and the same longevity, regardless of wether you start at the max oc or work your way up there 1MHz at a time.

There are a handful of exceptions when it comes to poorly designed motherboards.
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You're right. I don't know. But I am worried about it.
As said above, you really shouldn't be so hard on yourself

All good people get upset at times. I think it is justified though, his comment about your number of posts was rather idiotic, but that's rather how most people in life are.

I'm not one to give out advice, but try ignoring those that anger you. You'll be happier not worrying about those that aren't worth the time.

And in response to your question, I doubt small increments would really help. Just set it at your desired speed, based on what you read about others' OCs and what you objectively think the vcore should be set at.

It's not that hard really, stress testing isn't something I consider extremely important. As said above, I really do think 10 hour sessions are a bit overdone, other than to check temps. I've never gotten an error in Orthos, ever, but I can tell when something isn't stable....

Memtest is very important though....

And with this, I drive to school. How I hate getting up in the mornings.
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getting up im still up lol


i do jumps of 5 to 100mhz but i have a really picky chip i can boot at 3.6 with 1.38 vcor but not at 3.7 because cause thats about the highest i can go on that voltage. it lets me know were i need voltage at
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for me its based on cpu/mobo avereges... If i look around enough, I can tell you exactly what the gen averege overclock is with cpu/motherboard.. google is ur friend.

with my q6600, I knew 335x9 wasnt going to be an issue, so I go up increments of 10 to keep from just giving the cpu a jolt, and do a 15min or so stress to see where temps are. at 335x9 I ran 6+ hours prime, or 2hr occt. from there on in is where I go up 10, stress for at least 6hrs prime, if it fails, volts go up .025, and this process is repeated til I get a end result as link shows in sig.


stress testing is vital to the life of your pc if you are OCing for everyday use...
Also if your going to give advice on forums like these, please be sure to let the ppl you making suggestions to that you dont stress test your overclock for more than an hour..

PS OCCT only needs to run 2hrs from what Ive heard....
I just personally like to know my pc can run the marathon, not just the 100m and fall down ;-)
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Hey 5 cheese I apologisely last night when i posted this i did it whith a smile lightheartedly. I mean i remember when you signed up for ocn about a month after me. So i though i was pretty active. Early yesterday i noticed you had over 1K posts, I was shocked , only because i thought crap man thats alot in such a short time. Naturally when i was browsing i saw a new post from you so not only did i comment on your over 1000 posts but i also tried to offer some of my .02 . Sorry it didnt work out right and didnt come across correctly.
    
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As said above, you really shouldn't be so hard on yourself

All good people get upset at times. I think it is justified though, his comment about your number of posts was rather idiotic, but that's rather how most people in life are.

I'm not one to give out advice, but try ignoring those that anger you. You'll be happier not worrying about those that aren't worth the time.

And in response to your question, I doubt small increments would really help. Just set it at your desired speed, based on what you read about others' OCs and what you objectively think the vcore should be set at.

It's not that hard really, stress testing isn't something I consider extremely important. As said above, I really do think 10 hour sessions are a bit overdone, other than to check temps. I've never gotten an error in Orthos, ever, but I can tell when something isn't stable....

Memtest is very important though....

And with this, I drive to school. How I hate getting up in the mornings.
Thank you for the advice, JCJP. I'm serious, I really liked it. It reminded me that I need to get back to doing that with others.

And thank you too for the helpful words for my oc (and not just you, but thank you to everyone who replied). I suppose I am getting into this as though it's like an ongoing sport or something.
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Hey 5 cheese I apologisely last night when i posted this i did it whith a smile lightheartedly. I mean i remember when you signed up for ocn about a month after me. So i though i was pretty active. Early yesterday i noticed you had over 1K posts, I was shocked , only because i thought crap man thats alot in such a short time. Naturally when i was browsing i saw a new post from you so not only did i comment on your over 1000 posts but i also tried to offer some of my .02 . Sorry it didnt work out right and didnt come across correctly.
You're right! Had I looked at your join date, I would've been like, "". But, I was either crabby, really tired, or I don't know what. All I know is I'm sorry about my behavior. I admit that it was childish. But I'm lucky you guys are all so cool.

Thank you for that, though. I kinda forgot to give you the benefit of the doubt.
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Personally, I start off in big jumps and the increases between each stage of testing get smaller. In other other words my FSB bumps may go 200 -> 300 -> 350 -> 375. As you get higher and higher, there's a better chance of failure. If you go up in small increments and you become unstable, you're not stuck with a huge range where you "might" be stable. Figuring out your maximum values in a 5 MHz range is a lot easier than trying to figuring out the max in a 100 MHz range. That's my methodology by taking thing in smaller increments.
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