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[dvHW] Creative now says it will allow modded drivers

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Creative had a PR fiasco on its hands with its decision to forbid modified Audigy drivers and now the firm is trying to relax the situation:
Creative's initial response was to pull all of his work from the official forums and to send him a cease-and-desist message, but Kawakami now says, "I've been told they will allow me to continue with my mods, except the 'forbidden' ones. . . . I'm also allowed to receive donations."

Indeed, Creative posted a message on its forums in order to re-assert its position. The company starts off by saying it has read the "strong feedback" about its move, and that it failed to make it clear in its initial cease-and-desist note that it does in fact support "independent driver development by independent third parties." The firm adds that Windows Vista's new audio architecture and Microsoft's certification process for audio drivers make it "very difficult for Creative to develop updates for all past products" and that "outside developers have been very helpful." However, Creative says it frowns on "unauthorized distribution of other companies' property."

This somewhat ambiguous message ends with the promise, "We hope to work out a mutually agreeable method for working with Daniel_k in supporting his efforts in driver development. Going forward, we are committed to doing a better job of working more closely with third parties to support their development for our products and our customers."
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Make me proud Creative.
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in before people saying Creative is just trying to keep its customers
yes thats what they're doing. please realise that's also exactly what you guys have been wanting.
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To be fair retaining existing business is a primary objective of most companies, along with expanding their existing customer base of course, which wouldn't happen at all if they didn't take action like this in an attempt to stop negativity about them by word of mouth and the internet. However, I'm somewhat concerned about these "forbidden" mods. Needless to say, I'd like to think that after this weekend's shenanigans people will have wised up a little more about Creative and realise that they aren't exactly the first choice when it comes to audio cards. I suspect that the Auzentech Prelude only offers such good performance under Vista as it's up to Auzentech as to whether they limit any of the features in Creative's drivers or not.
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Welldone to Creative for admitting a wrong move or perhaps ill worded message.

I think if they work alongside DaneilK it will help them and will get customers to regain some faith in them.
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To be fair retaining existing business is a primary objective of most companies, along with expanding their existing customer base of course, which wouldn't happen at all if they didn't take action like this in an attempt to stop negativity about them by word of mouth and the internet. However, I'm somewhat concerned about these "forbidden" mods. Needless to say, I'd like to think that after this weekend's shenanigans people will have wised up a little more about Creative and realise that they aren't exactly the first choice when it comes to audio cards. I suspect that the Auzentech Prelude only offers such good performance under Vista as it's up to Auzentech as to whether they limit any of the features in Creative's drivers or not.
Rofl, I was listening to Live Wire by AC/DC, and your av was going in perfect time to the song

Too late to get my business Creative, I'll keep my onboard.
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The firm adds that Windows Vista's new audio architecture and Microsoft's certification process for audio drivers make it "very difficult for Creative to develop updates for all past products" and that "outside developers have been very helpful." However, Creative says it frowns on "unauthorized distribution of other companies' property."
This right here is my problem with Creative. They try to blame MS even though every other sound card manufacturer has been able to release fully functional Vista drivers. Hell, my cheap on-board actually sounds better in Vista than it did in XP, and it has increased functionality. They can cry about how difficult it is all they want, but the fact remains that one guy was able to solve these issues in his spare time.

The bottom line is that they got greedier than normal. Greed is perfectly acceptable, even expected in the HW industry. Profit drives innovation, I get it. My point is that Creative wanted to sell either Alchemy or a new sound card to owners of the Audigy2 line, and they wanted to give x-fi owners more reason to upgrade to the soon to be released x-fi 2. Yeah, it sucks for Creative that sound tech doesn't evolve as fast as CPU or GPU tech. That does not give them the right to intentionally cripple a product just to get more sales.

It is obvious to anyone who looks that the only reason they decided to shut Daniel down when they did is because they have a new product line in the works. This has nothing to do with IP, it is simply a matter of potential sales. Word got out and it kicked them in the arse. Creative threw Daniel a bone hoping this would shut everyone up, but this still does nothing to solve their problems.
 
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