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I'm gonna have to upgrade to 16GB...I gawt Vista lawl
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i may be slaughtered for this by those 4gb fiends.... but i installed vista ultimate on my laptop. and i love it! there i said it! its an IBM T43 with only 1.5 Gb ram.

oh yes. Not 2!... 1.5!! And believe it or not it boots faster than a mac book pro ...

go suck an apple

edit: oh and for the sake of saving my arse. I super tweaked it. So it does ACTUALLY boot faster than a macbook pro. sorry apple fans...
    
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For this argument, I'd like to back it up with both the minimum and recommended system requirements for Windows Vista Home Basic, Home Premium and Ultimate taken right from Microsoft's website. Notice the minimum is always 512MB of memory.

Windows Vista Home Basic
Recommended system requirements
  • 1 GHz 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor
  • 512 MB of system memory
  • 20 GB hard drive with at least 15 GB of available space
  • Support for DirectX 9 graphics and 32 MB of graphics memory
  • DVD-ROM drive
  • Audio Output
  • Internet access (fees may apply)
Actual requirements and product functionality may vary based on your system configuration. Windows Vista Upgrade Advisor can help you determine which features and edition of Windows Vista will run on your computer.
While all editions of Windows Vista can support multiple core CPUs, only Windows Vista Business, Ultimate, and Enterprise can support dual processors.
Windows Vista Home Basic
Minimum supported requirements


Certain product features are not available with minimum supported requirements.
  • 800 MHz processor and 512 MB of system memory
  • 20 GB hard drive with at least 15 GB of available space
  • Support for Super VGA graphics
  • CD-ROM drive
Windows Vista Ultimate
Recommended system requirements
  • 1 GHz 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor
  • 1 GB of system memory
  • 40 GB hard drive with at least 15 GB of available space
  • Support for DirectX 9 graphics with:
    • WDDM Driver
    • 128 MB of graphics memory (minimum)
    • Pixel Shader 2.0 in hardware
    • 32 bits per pixel
  • DVD-ROM
  • Audio Output
  • Internet access (fees may apply)
Additional requirements to use certain features
  • TV tuner card required for TV functionality (compatible remote control optional)
  • Windows Tablet and Touch Technology requires a Tablet PC or a touch screen
  • Windows BitLocker Drive Encryption requires a USB Flash Drive and a system with a TPM 1.2 chip
Actual requirements and product functionality may vary based on your system configuration. Windows Vista Upgrade Advisor can help you determine which features and edition of Windows Vista will run on your computer.
While all editions of Windows Vista can support multiple core CPUs, only Windows Vista Business, Ultimate, and Enterprise can support dual processors.
Windows Vista Ultimate
Minimum supported system requirements


Certain product features are not available with minimum supported requirements.
  • 800 MHz processor and 512 MB of system memory
  • 20 GB hard drive with at least 15 GB of available space
  • Support for Super VGA graphics
  • CD-ROM
Compare system requirements across the editions.


I'm not saying that anything more than 1GB is overkill. I'm saying that, to those who think they need 2GB of ram or more to simply run Vista must have something else installed which makes that true.

Another possibility is like what Skunksmash wrote a month ago in this thread entitled "Vista sucks. I switched back to XP" posted by SentryOptic. Here's post #10 by Skunksmash. He has 4GB of RAM, and had 4GB of ram at the time as well:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skunksmash
get more ram!!!!!!!!!!!!! let vista breathe ....
i guarantee u would not think of going back to XP
Then 5 posts later, pow3rtr1p, who has 2GB of ram (dual channel specified) says,

Quote:
Originally Posted by pow3rtr1p
If you had 4GB of RAM, you'd think differently. Problem is, XP x64 is so awful support wise that if you buy 4 GBs of RAM, it's pretty hard to go back to XP.

However, I still get great framerates in every game except Crysis, and I don't think my framerates would be much higher on XP.
So what I'm hearing is that while 1GB is the "recommended" and 512MB is the "minimum", Vista will "breathe" better with a lot more ram. I suppose we can all say "well duh!", but this seems to be the reasoning behind why people recommend 4GB so strongly.
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Originally Posted by 5CheeseLasagna View Post
For this argument, I'd like to back it up with both the minimum and recommended system requirements for Windows Vista Home Basic, Home Premium and Ultimate taken right from Microsoft's website. Notice the minimum is always 512MB of memory.

Windows Vista Home Basic
Recommended system requirements
  • 1 GHz 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor
  • 512 MB of system memory
  • 20 GB hard drive with at least 15 GB of available space
  • Support for DirectX 9 graphics and 32 MB of graphics memory
  • DVD-ROM drive
  • Audio Output
  • Internet access (fees may apply)
Actual requirements and product functionality may vary based on your system configuration. Windows Vista Upgrade Advisor can help you determine which features and edition of Windows Vista will run on your computer.
While all editions of Windows Vista can support multiple core CPUs, only Windows Vista Business, Ultimate, and Enterprise can support dual processors.
Windows Vista Home Basic
Minimum supported requirements

Certain product features are not available with minimum supported requirements.
  • 800 MHz processor and 512 MB of system memory
  • 20 GB hard drive with at least 15 GB of available space
  • Support for Super VGA graphics
  • CD-ROM drive
Windows Vista Ultimate
Recommended system requirements
  • 1 GHz 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor
  • 1 GB of system memory
  • 40 GB hard drive with at least 15 GB of available space
  • Support for DirectX 9 graphics with:
    • WDDM Driver
    • 128 MB of graphics memory (minimum)
    • Pixel Shader 2.0 in hardware
    • 32 bits per pixel
  • DVD-ROM
  • Audio Output
  • Internet access (fees may apply)
Additional requirements to use certain features
  • TV tuner card required for TV functionality (compatible remote control optional)
  • Windows Tablet and Touch Technology requires a Tablet PC or a touch screen
  • Windows BitLocker Drive Encryption requires a USB Flash Drive and a system with a TPM 1.2 chip
Actual requirements and product functionality may vary based on your system configuration. Windows Vista Upgrade Advisor can help you determine which features and edition of Windows Vista will run on your computer.
While all editions of Windows Vista can support multiple core CPUs, only Windows Vista Business, Ultimate, and Enterprise can support dual processors.
Windows Vista Ultimate
Minimum supported system requirements

Certain product features are not available with minimum supported requirements.
  • 800 MHz processor and 512 MB of system memory
  • 20 GB hard drive with at least 15 GB of available space
  • Support for Super VGA graphics
  • CD-ROM
Compare system requirements across the editions.


I'm not saying that anything more than 1GB is overkill. I'm saying that, to those who think they need 2GB of ram or more to simply run Vista must have something else installed which makes that true.

Another possibility is like what Skunksmash wrote a month ago in this thread entitled "Vista sucks. I switched back to XP" posted by SentryOptic. Here's post #10 by Skunksmash. He has 4GB of RAM, and had 4GB of ram at the time as well:



Then 5 posts later, pow3rtr1p, who has 2GB of ram (dual channel specified) says,



So what I'm hearing is that while 1GB is the "recommended" and 512MB is the "minimum", Vista will "breathe" better with a lot more ram. I suppose we can all say "well duh!", but this seems to be the reasoning behind why people recommend 4GB so strongly.
Good collection of info there !. Nice one.
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Oh. Thanks, Enterprise!
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Originally Posted by tt_shark View Post
i may be slaughtered for this by those 4gb fiends.... but i installed vista ultimate on my laptop. and i love it! there i said it! its an IBM T43 with only 1.5 Gb ram.

oh yes. Not 2!... 1.5!! And believe it or not it boots faster than a mac book pro ...

go suck an apple

edit: oh and for the sake of saving my arse. I super tweaked it. So it does ACTUALLY boot faster than a macbook pro. sorry apple fans...
Yes, but my macbook doesn't need to boot. Like, ever. Last time I rebooted was the last time an update came down the line. Boot times are about the least important thing to worry about in terms of a PC's performance IMO. It's not like you reboot every 10 minutes.
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