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On a serious note: Take all comparisons about these processors to a comparison thread. This thread is for the announcement that B3 Phenoms are available at newegg. Please take all your retarded bickering to it's appropriate domain.
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I like CPU's, faster the better. What company?.........who gives a hoot, its about me, not them. Now lets all hug
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I like CPU's, faster the better. What company?.........who gives a hoot, its about me, not them. Now lets all hug
damn strait, i have zero company loyalty. i buy whats fast, and don't really care about much else.
    
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Does someone need to explain to you that multithreading efficiency is horrible? Only in very select circumstance do quads out due higher clocked dual's. This is the bases of my point why it is better to go with the E8400 over the Phenom.
I can think of three games off the top of my head that either ARE helped, or likely will be by a quad - Supreme Commander, Assassin's Creed, and Alan Wake. I'm sure that there are others and the ranks will grow. Mind you this advice is for someone buying a processor/mobo that isn't planning on upgrading for a year or so, or someone that has already sunk in the money for an AM2+ system and wants get the most out of it that they can.
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I can think of three games off the top of my head that either ARE helped, or likely will be by a quad - Supreme Commander, Assassin's Creed, and Alan Wake. I'm sure that there are others and the ranks will grow. Mind you this advice is for someone buying a processor/mobo that isn't planning on upgrading for a year or so, or someone that has already sunk in the money for an AM2+ system and wants get the most out of it that they can.
+1. Now I agree.
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Does someone need to explain to you that multithreading efficiency is horrible? Only in very select circumstance do quads out due higher clocked dual's. This is the bases of my point why it is better to go with the E8400 over the Phenom.
well, you have yet to prove your point, considering all of your proof has been faulty so far.

I don't care how bad multi-threading efficiency may be, man, if it were so bad that 2 cores could be beat by a mere 260mhz overclock, Intel would have never made a quad-core, and we would still be in the race to 10ghz.

That test isn't using all four cores man and you know it, why can't you just admit it?
I'll give it to you man, overall Intel is the better choice, they have better performing processors and their price-performance ratio is indeed better due to their improved overclocking abilities, but what I don't understand is why you feel the need to beat AMD down farther than it really is.

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Paul arguing with him is like talking to a brick wall. The regulars here know you're right. No need to waste you virtual breath on people that simply won't listen.
And thanks for posting comments that are beneficial to the thread man, I know we may be a bit off topic here, but stuff like that really doesn't help... you don't need to exact your "revenge" on me just because we had a disagreement in another thread.
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I lol'ed

On a serious note: Take all comparisons about these processors to a comparison thread. This thread is for the announcement that B3 Phenoms are available at newegg. Please take all your retarded bickering to it's appropriate domain.
Agreed let's not feed the trolls.
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I can think of three games off the top of my head that either ARE helped, or likely will be by a quad - Supreme Commander, Assassin's Creed, and Alan Wake. I'm sure that there are others and the ranks will grow. Mind you this advice is for someone buying a processor/mobo that isn't planning on upgrading for a year or so, or someone that has already sunk in the money for an AM2+ system and wants get the most out of it that they can.
I had a screenshot of an Anandtech Supreme Commander benchmark up. It showed the dual cores performing quite well.

I agree with you (as I stated in my original post). If you already have a Phenom compatible motherboard, then go for it, although it may not be much of a boost above what you already have. But if you are building new, a E8400 + GA-P35-DS3L is going to put you down about $260 and will be very fast.

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well, you have yet to prove your point, considering all of your proof has been faulty so far.

I don't care how bad multi-threading efficiency may be, man, if it were so bad that 2 cores could be beat by a mere 260mhz overclock, Intel would have never made a quad-core, and we would still be in the race to 10ghz.


That test isn't using all four cores man and you know it, why can't you just admit it?
I'll give it to you man, overall Intel is the better choice, they have better performing processors and their price-performance ratio is indeed better due to their improved overclocking abilities, but what I don't understand is why you feel the need to beat AMD down farther than it really is.
Talk about a faulty argument? I often play supreme commander, and it does use 4 cores. It does max out all cores core, but this is one of the underlying issues with multi-cores. Not all applications are suited to being threaded.

The benchmarks I linked proved my point. The E8400 costs $20 less, uses significantly less power, overclocks significantly higher, and even performs better in most circumstances.
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Talk about a faulty argument? I often play supreme commander, and it does use 4 cores. It does max out all cores core, but this is one of the underlying issues with multi-cores. Not all applications are suited to being threaded.
Then if you knew this benchmark had problems with threading, and scaling per core, why would you post it?

I dunno man, I guess I'll never understand the perverted point of view of the truly Die-Hard fanboys...

(I'm not coming back to this thread, so if you really would like to send a reply to me, put it in a PM)
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Insult someone and then leave. Nice.
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