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Originally Posted by Pooping^fish View Post
Dual again? Ew.
They need to revise what that already have and improve upon it. Not double it.
I think they need to revise what they already have and then double it.

Wait, that's what their doing.
post #22 of 29
I'm just taking a stab in the dark here, but all this Crossfire/SLI stuff is probably just AMD and Nvidia working for support for multi-GPU technologies so they can move to dual-GPU setups on one card, and eventually one die, and already have a support base for multi-GPU cards in place. Thinking back quite a ways, not many people considered running a dual-processor setup in their own home - but enthusiasts (of a different kind than us) did have them. Those people helped push companies to start developing their software to take advantage of dual processors. Now it's nearly unthinkable for any modern gamer to be running a single-core machine, all thanks to those early adopters.

Now we're seeing the graphics companies follow suit, and their largest target audience is gamers. The people running SLI/Crossfire are akin to the people that were running dual-procesor setups back when the idea was ludicrously overkill. Granted, those folks weren't doing it for games (usually), but graphics cards are a largely game-driven industry, and in order to garner the programming backing for dual-GPU setups, they have to push it somehow. If AMD or Nvidia just dropped a quad-core GPU in our laps it may be a tech fetishist's wet dream, but if it didn't perform well in games (and it most likely wouldn't), it would be a huge waste of money. But if the infrastructure for multi-GPU support is already in place, whoever does drop a dual-GPU setup onto the market won't be sticking their neck out nearly so far.


That's my theory anyway. Maybe I'm way off.
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post #23 of 29
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im guessing it will be the 9850 GX2
I doubt it, Nvidia doesn't need another flagship card, this is probably going to be a midrange-ish dual chip to boost sales in that department...

It will probably be something like a 9600gx2

(which might even be acceptable)
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post #24 of 29
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I'm just taking a stab in the dark here, but all this Crossfire/SLI stuff is probably just AMD and Nvidia working for support for multi-GPU technologies so they can move to dual-GPU setups on one card, and eventually one die, and already have a support base for multi-GPU cards in place. Thinking back quite a ways, not many people considered running a dual-processor setup in their own home - but enthusiasts (of a different kind than us) did have them. Those people helped push companies to start developing their software to take advantage of dual processors. Now it's nearly unthinkable for any modern gamer to be running a single-core machine, all thanks to those early adopters.

Now we're seeing the graphics companies follow suit, and their largest target audience is gamers. The people running SLI/Crossfire are akin to the people that were running dual-procesor setups back when the idea was ludicrously overkill. Granted, those folks weren't doing it for games (usually), but graphics cards are a largely game-driven industry, and in order to garner the programming backing for dual-GPU setups, they have to push it somehow. If AMD or Nvidia just dropped a quad-core GPU in our laps it may be a tech fetishist's wet dream, but if it didn't perform well in games (and it most likely wouldn't), it would be a huge waste of money. But if the infrastructure for multi-GPU support is already in place, whoever does drop a dual-GPU setup onto the market won't be sticking their neck out nearly so far.


That's my theory anyway. Maybe I'm way off.
Sorry sir i do believe you are off, back in my good gaming days, 3dfx introduced sli with its Voodoo 2 cards , back in 1998, then nvidia purchased 3dfx, kept sli stored away for a while, then introduced it again a few years later.
SLI has been going on for ages, they arent using it as a means of support to move on to multi-core gpus, they are just using it to make money.
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It's not going to happen overnight, naturally - but what with all the Tri-SLI, Quad-fire, and all that going on, both AMD and Nvidia seem to be caught up in the multi-GPU race, and if you ask me, there's only one real way to win that - and that would be with a multi-core GPU. R&D on such a chip would probably be prohibitively expensive though, so it makes sense that they want to soften up the market before investing in such a venture.

I'm not saying this whole thing is new, but this is the first time that AMD and Nvidia have both been really pushing this hard for dual-GPU setups to become mainstream.
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post #26 of 29
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It's not going to happen overnight, naturally - but what with all the Tri-SLI, Quad-fire, and all that going on, both AMD and Nvidia seem to be caught up in the multi-GPU race, and if you ask me, there's only one real way to win that - and that would be with a multi-core GPU. R&D on such a chip would probably be prohibitively expensive though, so it makes sense that they want to soften up the market before investing in such a venture.

I'm not saying this whole thing is new, but this is the first time that AMD and Nvidia have both been really pushing this hard for dual-GPU setups to become mainstream.
GPUs are already multicore though, the 9800GTX is actually a really complex 128-core processor: each stream processor is a full fledged core, so if you were to make a "multi core" version of it, it would just be a card with 256 stream processors(GT200 anyone? )
    
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GPUs are already multicore though, the 9800GTX is actually a really complex 128-core processor: each stream processor is a full fledged core, so if you were to make a "multi core" version of it, it would just be a card with 256 stream processors(GT200 anyone? )
GPU's have lots of threads, like a Dual Core CPU has two, but these are limited in what they can do, so I reckon it would be more like 2xG92/RV670 chips on the one Chip, like how if you take a Core 2 Quad's IHS off, its two dual cores, I think that could be the way to go, but before we have two GPU's, we need to get the Power usage and Heat down.
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hah, the only reason i want more powerful single gpu's is so i can get more out of having2 of them in Sli/cfX, lol
    
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post #29 of 29
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It's not going to happen overnight, naturally - but what with all the Tri-SLI, Quad-fire, and all that going on, both AMD and Nvidia seem to be caught up in the multi-GPU race, and if you ask me, there's only one real way to win that - and that would be with a multi-core GPU. R&D on such a chip would probably be prohibitively expensive though, so it makes sense that they want to soften up the market before investing in such a venture.

I'm not saying this whole thing is new, but this is the first time that AMD and Nvidia have both been really pushing this hard for dual-GPU setups to become mainstream.
Indeed, now its a race who can have the most cards unfortunately instead of who has the most powerful! I do prefer single cores for my GFX cards and always have, some kind of fetish i guess! If a core emerges with even more stream processors that would be great for me!
Lets not forget though, why they are pushing the dual/tri/quad setups, because they dont have more powerful cards, they just multiply them, thats the chicken way out!
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