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Alright, due to me getting a brand new motherboard, I am having to re-overclock my motherboard. First, I have a couple questions about doing this. May be irrelevant, may have already had someone state it, but I just want to make sure.

1) Will a BIOS update, help anything at all?
2) I know that I can't use the same clock speeds, but will they be around the same, or is it not going to be the same at all?
3) Will their be any reason why the RAM settings have to be changed at all because of the new motherboard?

My specs should be in my sig, not sure if it has been updated or not. Will check after I post this message.

My old overclock settings were the following:
CPU Speed ~3.3GHz
FSB : 210
Multiplier: 16
HTT : 4x
CPU Volt: 1.465
RAM Async: 8ns
RAM volt : 2.1

Any ideas on how I can get this back to relatively the same speed would be great, thanks.
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post #2 of 22
Updating the bios will help because they add new features, you should be able to get around the same overclock if you have the same settings.. but there is a chance that you won't because all boards/chips overclock differently. I would say just keep testing it out and running prime to check for stability.
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I had to update my motherboard because it wouldn't let me turn up the multiplier on my black edition, but your motherboard should fully support it. In all honesty, if its a new motherboard brand and chipset, I would start from scratch and disregard the past settings.
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It isn't a new motherboard, just a refurbished one. Though I would like to know if the RAM settings need to be changed anywhere. Currently I am just getting a BSOD screen with anything around 3.3 or 3.2. Mostly IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL and DRIVER_POOL_HEADER errors. Which I think are caused by ram and the second is supposedly caused by something related to the internet (That is what I have read).
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It isn't a new motherboard, just a refurbished one. Though I would like to know if the RAM settings need to be changed anywhere. Currently I am just getting a BSOD screen with anything around 3.3 or 3.2. Mostly IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL and DRIVER_POOL_HEADER errors. Which I think are caused by ram and the second is supposedly caused by something related to the internet (That is what I have read).
BAD_POOL_HEADER errors are nearly always due to vga drivers, did you do a repair install of windows on this after you changed the motherboard?
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Yeah, I started from scratch. By that I mean, complete scratch. I took a fresh look at everything in the box. Cabling, OS, software, etc.
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It isn't a new motherboard, just a refurbished one. Though I would like to know if the RAM settings need to be changed anywhere. Currently I am just getting a BSOD screen with anything around 3.3 or 3.2. Mostly IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL and DRIVER_POOL_HEADER errors. Which I think are caused by ram and the second is supposedly caused by something related to the internet (That is what I have read).
Gho, are you getting these BSOD's in Windows XP or Vista? Make sure in Vista in the Power Management area that you have it set to "High Performance". Like everyone else has suggested, reset everything to the defaults. You need to start finding the maximum limits of each component. This will give you a nice baseline.

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At the moment, I am using XP, though I do have Vista Dual booted I am not using it.

Usually I make sure the Power Management for any Operating System is to never turn anything off. In otherwords, it wouldn't be green in the least bit.

I know the CPU can hit 3.3 (this is the most I have gone), I think it might be the motherboard, because it blues screens at anything the overclock is set to at the moment. set it to 2.8, it will blue screen. I think this is due to it being refurbished model and they went in and messed away with it.

Also as a small note I saw this:
"Give your memory between 2.9 - 3.4 volts depending on what type it is." Would that not kill the memory? I would think that is alittle too high.

And as for the HTT, I usually tend to always just keep it at 4x to be on the safe side, my overclocks never usually go past 250.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GH0 View Post
At the moment, I am using XP, though I do have Vista Dual booted I am not using it.

Usually I make sure the Power Management for any Operating System is to never turn anything off. In otherwords, it wouldn't be green in the least bit.

I know the CPU can hit 3.3 (this is the most I have gone), I think it might be the motherboard, because it blues screens at anything the overclock is set to at the moment. set it to 2.8, it will blue screen. I think this is due to it being refurbished model and they went in and messed away with it.

Also as a small note I saw this:
"Give your memory between 2.9 - 3.4 volts depending on what type it is." Would that not kill the memory? I would think that is alittle too high.

And as for the HTT, I usually tend to always just keep it at 4x to be on the safe side, my overclocks never usually go past 250.

Gho, perhaps maybe your overclock(not being stable) is to blame and not the motherboard. Did you find the maximum limit of each component yet? The voltage recommendation for 2.9 - 3.4 is for DDR1 memory.
I'm a little confused by what you said about HTT at 4x? Are you referring to the reference clock(HTT) or the hypertransport multiplier(HT)?

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post #10 of 22
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Quote:
Gho, perhaps maybe your overclock(not being stable) is to blame and not the motherboard.
I know it is not the CPU. I will tell you why. Before the motherboard was RMA'ed, it was able to hit the settings.

Quote:
I'm a little confused by what you said about HTT at 4x? Are you referring to the reference clock(HTT) or the hypertransport multiplier(HT)?
Sorry, Hyper Transport Multiplier.

Quote:
Did you find the maximum limit of each component yet?
At the moment, no. I was pre occupied with something.
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