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post #1 of 15
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Seems like it has all decent parts? Anything I should be concerned about? The only thing I don't like is it uses a t-line but a res can be put in if anything.

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post #2 of 15
A good air cooler should do almost as well without half the fuss. I didn't see the price.
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I think that's a solid quality setup there, you should be good to go.
 
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post #4 of 15
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WC has been something I've been wanting to try for a long time and after reading alot of the posts on this forum I've become comfortable about trying it. This is more for the experience then anything else really. BTW speedy replies fellas thanks a bunch.

EDIT: I see alot of Non-Conductive fluids and such, are they worth the money?
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Its not bad, but the block isn't the best and the worst part is the D-5 pump which is the "B" model, it gives you 30% less flow then the vario version...

This with the 320 rad option and the highest cfm fans would be a lot better I think.....Fuzion Kit

Its always best just to build your own, you get more for your $$$...
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post #6 of 15
all you need is anti-corrosive and anti-fungal additive. i personally use swiftech hydrx which has ethylene glycol which is basically anti-freeze. the ethylene glycol might be the anti-fungal as well but i haven't found any info on that yet. you want enough ethylene glycol to prevent corrosion of your block and radiator resulting in loss of heat conductivity from the cpu to the liquid but to much ethylene glycol and the liquids viscosity will become high enough to hinder the flow slowing the system and making the pump work harder. and never use de-ionized water as it will corrode the surface of the inside of your system. distilled water by reverse osmosis is probably going to be the best you can find at the store
    
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Originally Posted by ira-k View Post
Its not bad, but the block isn't the best and the worst part is the D-5 pump which is the "B" model, it gives you 30% less flow then the vario version...

This with the 320 rad option and the highest cfm fans would be a lot better I think.....Fuzion Kit

Its always best just to build your own, you get more for your $$$...
I agree with Ira

I went the Heinz 57 way of water cooling I picked and chose different parts till I had a smoking water cooling kit..

Kits are good but you get what you pay for on them...

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post #8 of 15
The prices aren't bad and all the pieces are good...however you are getting the hems and haws because all of the components are a few dollars less than what they would buy on their own.

For a first kit I would look at the Swiftech H20 220 Compact. It has the same radiator. The hoses are something I would replace immediately. The radiator includes a full/reservoir (like a car, in the top tank), and the pump is integrated with the CPU water block, make each less than optimal. However, by only requiring two hoses and a trivial installation, it is a good way to get started.

I mad a few modifications on the fans and radiator mounts, costing less than $50 including the fans, that runs my Q6700 G0 at 3.6Ghz@1.48v (1.41vdroop) at 58C max.

And I am upgrading piecemeal from there. I didn't want to spend $600 on all the highend pieces I wanted without having some experience with the ins and outs of mounting the stuff, bleeding, and testing the system. Now with a better perspective I am on my second water cooling project.

Now to that kit:
  1. The D-tek Fuzion is considered a much better CPU water block...worth a couple of degrees in core temperature, maybe more.
  2. The CPU water block should have a backing plate to be affective with adequate clamping force. The D-tek kit didn't include the $12 pro mounting kit with the back plate.
  3. The D5 is a popular pump, that model is fixed at speed 4. Most spend the extra $10 or so for the variable speed model. Actually, I believe most by the DDC 3.2 pump (MCP355) and put an aftermarket top...the XSPC ones being most popular.
  4. The kit comes with 25mm fans. Radiators are restrictive devices and work better with 38mm fans which have pressure/flow curves better suited to use with the radiators.
  5. The fans should be mounted in pull with a shroud. Not much is available commercially here. The Swifttech radbox mounts the unit rather close to the PC and expects the fan to be directly mounted in push configuration. I modified mine to extend further and mount the radiator with a shroud in pull.
  6. Very few seem to buy the Swifttech radiators outside of a kit. The various Harware Labs (Black Ice, GTX) and Thermochills being the most popular.
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post #9 of 15
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For a first kit I would look at the Swiftech H20 220 Compact.
.....[*]The kit comes with 25mm fans. Radiators are restrictive devices and work better with 38mm fans which have pressure/flow curves better suited to use with the radiators.[*]The fans should be mounted in pull with a shroud. .....
Why the Compact? The kit in the OP is essentially Perta's version of the Swiftech H20-220 Apex Ultra. I'd stick with that, but call Petra's to see if they'd replace the pump with the the vario (no necessary, but for $10 why not) and the rad with the MCR320 or H/W Labs). If you're going to upgrade components in the future, the Compact kit would be more restrictive in doing so.

You're recommending 38mm fans with shrouds. Here's a question I've asked but have not gotten an answer. When using a shroud, do 38mm fans still offer any advantage over 25mm fans?
post #10 of 15
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Originally Posted by TonyL222 View Post
Why the Compact? The kit in the OP is essentially Perta's version of the Swiftech H20-220 Apex Ultra. I'd stick with that, but call Petra's to see if they'd replace the pump with the the vario (no necessary, but for $10 why not) and the rad with the MCR320 or H/W Labs). If you're going to upgrade components in the future, the Compact kit would be more restrictive in doing so.

You're recommending 38mm fans with shrouds. Here's a question I've asked but have not gotten an answer. When using a shroud, do 38mm fans still offer any advantage over 25mm fans?
yes they will. shrouds eliminate dead spots, which has nothing to do with pressure. 38mm fans will still do better than 25's.
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