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pci-e is the type of slot, before 2003 there was as i like to put it a first gen bus speed limit on the pci-e slot, now this new gen (GEN2) can handle up to 16x instead of the 8x some cards can handle the lower speeds, but with reduced graphic abilities. So basicly if your pc is newer u have 2.0, if its older u have 1.0
I am pretty sure mine is older and I have 1.0, does that mean 2.0 will work on my motherboard or no? (mobo in sig rig)
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That is completely wrong. Think of it like USB 1.1 and 2.0.

Its the same thing. You actually have PCIe 1.1. PCIe 1.1 supports cards up to 16x speeds, hence the PCIe x16, and then PCIe 2.0 x 16 (new cards). The current gen cards that are PCIe 2.0 only support x16 bandwidth, so a 1.1 slot won't do you ANY harm at all. Again, you have almost an identical rig to me (age / chipset / features wise), so YES the PCIe 2.0 cards WILL work on your motherboard. I'm buying a G92 GTS on my next day off work. It WILL work. Same with your board.
 
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It Will Work, But is pointless to get A extreamly high end card considering that the bus speed will not allow you to get your full potential out of the video card. If i remember correctly anything past the 8500 series would not get the full potential, but u can always go larger card, and eventually get new pc, but again, Deffinitly Check the specs of the psu and Probly Upgrade it to at least a 500 or 600 watt. Dont feel bad about the questions, as i too still ask alot, the idiot is the one who tries with out asking, the one who askes does once, and save's time and $$$.
    
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It Will Work, But is pointless to get A extreamly high end card considering that the bus speed will not allow you to get your full potential out of the video card. If i remember correctly anything past the 8500 series would not get the full potential, but u can always go larger card, and eventually get new pc, but again, Deffinitly Check the specs of the psu and Probly Upgrade it to at least a 500 or 600 watt. Dont feel bad about the questions, as i too still ask alot, the idiot is the one who tries with out asking, the one who askes does once, and save's time and $$$.
I'd have to agree with you partially on your post. You are forgetting that the 8800GTX (still VERY NEAR top of the line) is only a PCIe 1.1 x16 card. Now if the new cards were for example PCIe 2.0 x32 (instead of x16), then yes, it would downgrade performance to use a 1.1 slot (x16 tops). But seeing as the cards are still only x16 bandwidth, there's no harm in it.

To the OP:
I would like to make note however, that your single core CPU, 1GB of RAM, and low end power supply would really be a bad idea with a newer GPU.

If you're looking for a new graphics card for your sig rig, I would personally go no higher than maybe an 8600GTS or 8800GS...and even the 8800GS would be pushing it with single core I'd think.
 
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I Agree with that pioneerisloud, my wording is a bit messed up! He is correct in the termonology, i been up for 23hours due to my 6month old son crying, so what i thinking and typing are kinda different! Sorry for the Confusion!
    
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Thanks "The Thing". I'd also like to make note here...there are few if ANY PCIe 2.0 motherboards even out yet.

To the OP:
I'm still going to strongly recommend you steer clear of the higher end graphics cards (8800GT and better), based off of your sig rig only having 1GB of RAM and a single core CPU. It's your money however, so do with it as you please. I'm just saying, don't expect the higher end cards to perform to their full speed with your rig. Heck, the 8800GTS 512MB I'm buying won't even be put to its FULL use because of my older 939 computer. However I feel its a very good upgrade and should get me to be able to play Crysis on all high at my default res. Your machine however would not be able to handle that with the RAM and CPU you currently have.

I would say either stick it out with the 7600GT, or go for an 8600GT or 8600GTS. Then with the money you save (either by not going all out, or by getting a cheaper card), save up to buy a much better computer (dual or quad core, and AT LEAST 2GB of RAM). You could always of course upgrade your CPU to a good 939 dual core (Opteron 165 / 170 cough cough), and put another 1GB of RAM in there, then go for the bigger card. That would give you a bigger boost than a massive GPU upgrade.

The choice is yours. I'm just telling you, from experience with the EXACT same socket mind you, it would be better to look at something else to upgrade first.
 
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Thanks "The Thing". I'd also like to make note here...there are few if ANY PCIe 2.0 motherboards even out yet.

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I'm still going to strongly recommend you steer clear of the higher end graphics cards (8800GT and better), based off of your sig rig only having 1GB of RAM and a single core CPU. It's your money however, so do with it as you please. I'm just saying, don't expect the higher end cards to perform to their full speed with your rig. Heck, the 8800GTS 512MB I'm buying won't even be put to its FULL use because of my older 939 computer. However I feel its a very good upgrade and should get me to be able to play Crysis on all high at my default res. Your machine however would not be able to handle that with the RAM and CPU you currently have.

I would say either stick it out with the 7600GT, or go for an 8600GT or 8600GTS. Then with the money you save (either by not going all out, or by getting a cheaper card), save up to buy a much better computer (dual or quad core, and AT LEAST 2GB of RAM). You could always of course upgrade your CPU to a good 939 dual core (Opteron 165 / 170 cough cough), and put another 1GB of RAM in there, then go for the bigger card. That would give you a bigger boost than a massive GPU upgrade.

The choice is yours. I'm just telling you, from experience with the EXACT same socket mind you, it would be better to look at something else to upgrade first.
Thanks Pioneer and The Thing, your guys information is really helpful. But say I did get an 8800 series card, how well would it run CoD4 and couldn't I still just upgrade more later and it would improve?
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anyone to answer the above?
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May I ask what your budget is?

I'd personally upgrade the PSU... something like this Rosewill will work just fine:
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That's the one I bought when Chozart helped me with my build. It's a great PSU for the price!
     
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Don't worry, all PCIE2.0 cards are designed to work with PCIE1.0 and will do so for long a time to come. There's currently just a barely noticeable advantage to having a PCIE2.0 motherboard right now.

I'd go for a 9600GT, an overclocked version if you can. Your PSU will handle it just fine, it's not a very power hungry card and has a price/performance ratio almost as good as the 8800GT.

Here are some factory overclocked models that are also among the cheapest after MIR:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814134040
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814122049
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127333 I would go with that last one, better cooling and bigger factory OC than the others.
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