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In response to the OP...ridiculous!!! For me to upgrade a GPU, the difference in performance should be at least 33.33% more FPS than the one I am upgrading from. Looks like the 9600GT, 8800GT, and 8800GTS 512 are still the sweet spots.

No 9800GTX for me =[.

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post #22 of 72
I see no reason to upgrade until the 10 series... The 9900 will probably be the same kind of jump from the G80 GTS to the G92 GTS, which is not worth buying a card at full price. I'll probably be leaning toward a HD4k series card next time...
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post #23 of 72
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Links?

Do a google search for "9800GTX overclocking". It's all over the internet.

On stock cooling, average max core OC, 850mhz. Average Shader, 2100. Average mem, 2400-2500. Seriously, do a search. I haven't found a single review site yet that posted max core OC of less than 825, and some as high as 860 or more.

I guarantee that we are going to start seeing core clocks approaching 900 on these cards once people start putting them on aftermarket cooling.

Yea it's looking that way.

I have just been browsing around google, other HW forums looking at reported overclocks. Theres quite a few 820+ on the core, looking alright if they're putting out more OC!
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post #24 of 72
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Yea it's looking that way.

I have just been browsing around google, other HW forums looking at reported overclocks. Theres quite a few 820+ on the core, looking alright if they're putting out more OC!
Sorry if I appeared rude, but its just that every time a new card comes out, everyone with the next most recent card screams about how pointless it is.

Do you remember when the 8800GTS 512mb first came out? There were posts all over the place about how it was pointless, it was a ripoff for the extra $50-70, about how an 8800GT clocked to the same speed was nearly the same performance... sound familiar?

Now a month or two later, how many folks in this thread have the "pointless" 8800GTS 512mb instead of the "non-pointless" 8800GT? See what I mean here?

This is the EXACT same situation.

Is the 9800GTX gods gift to gamers? NO. Absolutely not. Is it a newer, better overclocking G92 revision? Most definitely from what I've seen so far.
post #25 of 72
Well, the drivers for the 9800gtx haven't matured as much as the gts though, so it's understandable.
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Uh, my old GTS ran 840 stable without breaking a sweat...
    
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post #27 of 72
Isn't the 8800GTS's ram rated @ 1000/2000mhz and the 9800GTX's rated @ 1100/2200mhz. I know I read that somewhere and the GTX uses better ram I think (Samsung)?
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Originally Posted by kpo6969 View Post
Isn't the 8800GTS's ram rated @ 1000/2000mhz and the 9800GTX's rated @ 1100/2200mhz. I know I read that somewhere and the GTX uses better ram I think (Samsung)?
The GTX's ram is rated at a higher clock, and has looser timings. Many are hitting 2400-2500mhz. I have NEVER seen a GTS 512 do that.

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Uh, my old GTS ran 840 stable without breaking a sweat...
I'm sure some golden 9800GTX's are going to be hitting 880 stable. I've already seen one or two that do 865+, and that is right after release. What does that have to do with averages?

Just because your GTS hit 840 stable does not change the fact that the average GTS overclock is around 800. Some people with bad cards can't even pass 750-775. I haven't even heard of a 9800GTX yet that won't do at least 800.

I've owned three 8800GT's, one topped out at 680, another at 705, and another yet at 720. All cards are different, but the average for GT's still sits around 700.
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Do you remember when the 8800GTS 512mb first came out? There were posts all over the place about how it was pointless, it was a ripoff for the extra $50-70, about how an 8800GT clocked to the same speed was nearly the same performance... sound familiar?

Now a month or two later, how many folks in this thread have the "pointless" 8800GTS 512mb instead of the "non-pointless" 8800GT? See what I mean here?

This is the EXACT same situation.

No, I disagree with you. When it was the GTS vs the GT, the GTS had bigger advantages when the price came down from the "early adoption" stage. The GTS was always the better pick, abeit, pricier allowed for better overclocks, stock cooling owns and. The GTS was a better deal at the time, certainly not pointless. I'd take the GTS over the GT any day.

Furthermore, this is NOT the excact situation. The GT and GTS have different specifications, different shader count. The GTS and the 9800GTX are almost identical.

The only advantage I see in the GTX, is the two power connectors which allow more stable current for higher overclocks. Otherwise, performance difference is marginal, and the GTS is better in every other way.
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post #30 of 72
I get a new graphic card when they make em way faster than the 9800 (more like 8950)
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/hr5ms/
as it is now I don't need a faster card,may only a second one^^
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