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Ok, I think I'll stick with 32-bit Vista for the time being because I am only using 4GB of RAM anyways. Too bad my motherboard only has 4 DIMM slots. When I increase my RAM, I will make the switch to 64-bit. As long as my CPU handles the same way in 32-bit and 64-bit I think I will stick around with 32-bit.

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you will see a performance increase in any program that is written that takes advantage of more than 4gb of RAM. I'm running x64 and have absolutely no driver problems at all. Games all run fine, at least the ones i play. You MIGHT have issues if you try and run the original doom or quake. x64 allows for much greater memory address space, and many software programs will start to take advantage of that. General rule of thumb: 4 or more GB or RAM needs a 64 bit environment.
Vista 32bit supports 4gb ram in SP1
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Vista 32bit supports 4gb ram in SP1
Sorry to dissappoint, it does report 4GB but does not actually utilise them, it will only utilise around 3.25.

Its best described in the following Microsoft article.

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This change occurs because Windows Vista with SP1 reports how much physical memory installed on your computer. All versions of Windows NT-based operating systems before Windows Vista Service SP1 report how much memory available to the operating system. This change in Windows Vista SP1 is a reporting change only.
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Ahhh, well in that case maybe I should make the switch to Vista 64bit to utilize all 4GB of RAM...
    
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If you dont have any reason to use all 4 gigs for now, you could hold off a while longer, but if you do intend on utilising your whole set of sticks (since you payed for them!) you should go on to a 64bit system.
Mind you these are only suggestions! If there's no need for it (e.g. you dont run any intensive tasks or never get close to filling up your ram) you dont have to get a new O/S for now.
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I think I can utilize all 4GB of RAM for Photoshop, gaming, and in general just intensive multi-tasking! What I will test is how fast my system will run on 32-bit Vista and then see if there is any considerable difference using 64-bit Vista.
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Interesting...
So my real question is would I see performance increase in using 64-bit Vista with my Phenom 64 Quad Core CPU or would it be exactly the same as using 32-bit Vista for my processor speed?
Performance increase in what? The OS...probably not, at least for everyday use. The OS is pretty fast whether it's 32bit or 64bit.

Applications are a whole other story. 64bit OSs were developed for the server industry (handling large amounts of data in big, 64bit chunks). Since these were mainly server OSs, there historically wasn't much development of drivers and applications for the home user. Is that changing? Seems to be.

For all intents and purposes there are very few applications (including games) that effectively use 4 gigs of memory, Yes, if you want to mulktitask, have gobs of stuff open on your taskbar, and (with Vista) load programs fast, then yes, 64bits is for you. But for the vast majority of users websurfing, doing email and minor photo editing, and other everyday stuff, the advantages of 64bits is lost.

So, are 64bit OSs the wave of the future? The speed increases from single core to dual-core, to quad-core are certainly much more significant, even to the power user, than is the switch to 64bit computing. And we haven't yet even begun to see the potential of software written specifically for quad-core with 8, 16 and 32 core chips being developed even now.

So where is processing power going? Is 64bit processing the wave of the future? Are multi core CPU where it's at? Or is there some other "breakthrough" technology just around the corner? I would guess that, today, no one knows that answer. So, 64bit OS? Meehh! Can't hurt is the best that can be said.

There are about 6.6 billion people on he planet and about 10% of them have a computer, or access to a computer. What percent of the market do you think you, worrying about a 64bit OS, constitute? What's the chance that, in the near future, the other 99.99% of the world population that, at the most, just need internet access on the cheapest box (EEPC?) possible will be the driver of future developments and we, the overclockers, gamers and benchmarkers will be abandoned? After all, a quad-core on LN2 won't word process noticeably faster than an 8086 running Linux!
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Good points, billbartuska. I am currently running Ubuntu on a 32-bit CPU as I type. I think it's a great OS for what it does and handles older hardware very nicely.

Yes, I totally agree with you. We are the minority in this world with computers. That statistic is actually quite mind boggling -only 10% of the world's population (6.6 billion people) have access to a computer! That means 660,000,000 of us have access to computers (a VERY large number) - and that there are still 5,940,000,000 people in this world without computers. That number is just insane, I didn't realize it was so big!

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