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Poll Results: Which do you prefer for gaming?

Poll expired: Apr 16, 2008  
  • 63% (19)
    5000+ blck edition
  • 36% (11)
    6400+
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post #11 of 31
.... whichever one you can run at the highest speed.... the extra cache size isn't going to have much noticeable difference.
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post #12 of 31
stock for stock, yes, the 6400 will perform better... noticeably? not much. however, ur lookin at 90 dollars 4 the 5000 BE and it only consumes 65 watts. the 6400 on the other hand is 170 dollars and is rated at 125 watts.

i forget where i read it, but the 5000 BE uses less power than the 6400 even when it's overclocked 2 that speed. i want to say around 90 - 100 watts.

6400 = old tech, 5000 BE, not so old tech.
    
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post #13 of 31
for intel cpu's cache size seems to add about 1 operation per cycle or less on the cpu. But cache affects AMD cpus less than intel it seems

i would go 5000+, unless you arent interested in overclocking that much (you can just change the multi to that of the 6400 in many cases, with a little extra voltage)

i wouldn't even consider the 6400+, not worth the premium

and i thought all 6400+'s were black editions....
    
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post #14 of 31
Now that the 9850 BE Phenom's are out I would say neither the 5000 or the 6400. I'm replacing my 6000+ with this new Phenom, and cant wait to see what it can do.
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post #15 of 31
The 5000+ BE produces less heat when over clocked
post #16 of 31
If you are oc go for the 5000+ BE if you plan on running stock speed go with the 6000+ or 6400+...Also, if you deside to go with the 6400+ watch on newegg for an open box I have seen 6000+ and 6400+ for under $140
post #17 of 31
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Oooo thanks
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post #18 of 31
go for the 6400+ for sure...if you can get the 5000+ at 3.2Ghz which they will do the 6400+ will still beat it in performance terms...the latency of the l2 cache on the 65nm athlons is higher compared to the older 90nm ones so clock for clock the 6400+ performs better. the only down side is they run hotter and use more power but for performance i would get the 6400+ as it will likely oc to the same level as the 5000+be 3.3GHz ish maybe
    
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post #19 of 31
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Could this mobo run the phenom with a bios update?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131013
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post #20 of 31
It will be a matter of some luck whether you reach 3.2GHz on the 5000 black edition. Most do, but it's not guaranteed. You'll need to invest in aftermarket cooling to oc it, which will bring the price up. A decent hs will add $30, a good one $60, so you should consider this added cost with the 5000 be.
And the extra cache on the 6400 will perform better in games, regardless of what people have been saying. Low latency L2 cache of < 10 ns will give you better performance that the on die memory controller latency to ram of less < ~32 ns. The extra 2x amount of cache will matter, and the guaranteed 3.2GHz speed will also.

Spend the extra 30 bucks (when price factors a required hs for the 5000 be) and get the 6400 non be.

Edit:
If it were me i'd get the 6400 BE. But if I had a choice I'd get a E8400 which would give you 4GHz on air. Price/performance would be with the E8400, and plus P35 mobos are cheap.
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