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I Most businesses I know anything about stick with what works untill it doesn't, and they are forced to change.
Yep, I do alot of work for small businesses and large and alot of the ones I work with that use devoted softare for what they do stick to Windows 98 and Windows 2000. To them, why upgrade it works like it is ?


All these transitions to new things I think is gonna cripple Microsoft. People already don't want to upgrade to Vista, what do you think they are gonna think when people say "Windows 7 isn't just a upgrade it's completely different!"
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if they go subscription based, i go 100% linux.

i've always been dual booting with linux, using xp/vista as my gaming OS, but a subscription would be taking it too far. - and id have to see when i give up on gaming anyway, then id have no real reason to stick with MS.
    
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Vista was a major OS release. Windows 7 will be an interim release, like a sort of stepping stone between Vista and the next major OS form Microsoft.

It's also rumoured that Windows 7 will be a subscription-based OS, so I don't think as many people will be jumping from XP to 7 as you think.
If Windows 7 is not binary compatible with previous versions of Windows, that would be considered a major release.
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A montly subscription wouldn't be so bad depending on the montly cost. If it were say $10 per month, it would take like 3 years to match the cost of buying a retail version of Windows Vista Ultimate.
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A montly subscription wouldn't be so bad depending on the montly cost. If it were say $10 per month, it would take like 3 years to match the cost of buying a retail version of Windows Vista Ultimate.
You are correct, however, you have to look at it from the "ignorant" consumer point of view. They are used to buying a computer from dell and that's it. Now they will have to pay per month/year to use their computer.

"What?!!? I have to pay per month to use my new totally awesome XPS 95000 gaming laptop with two cores?!"

Realisticly, i dont believe that this will ever happen for personal use. I think there is going to be a business edition of 7 that is subscription based, and a home edition that is not. Could you imagine the mac vs. pc commercials if windows became subscription based?

"Hey mac guess what, windows users have to pay per month to use me now."
"That's great pc, but a mac would never force its customers to pay a subscription to use their own computer."

This won't happen.
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This is what happens when you let BASIC coders have reign over PC market share.
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If Windows 7 is not binary compatible with previous versions of Windows, that would be considered a major release.
Not to Microsoft. See: http://www.overclock.net/software-ne...ml#post3674204
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Contrary to Vulcan, I'd think businesses have the most to lose from a loss of backwards compatability. If they didn't, other architectures/OSes would have surpased x86 long ago. Most businesses I know anything about stick with what works untill it doesn't, and they are forced to change.
The businesses that would fall into your scenario probably fall into one of two camps: Those that fear change, even necessary or beneficlal change; or those that elected to go cheap and not buy the software maintenance. I did fail to bring those up, my bad.

However, as an IT manager responsible for a crapload of Microsoft (and other vendors) software purchases, those mentalities = FAIL. Software change happens, period. Get over it, and then get in front of it. Keep your software upgraded...not necessarily on zero day, but certainly before it's necessitated by end-of-life concerns, or (probably more quickly) your users revolting because you still have them ancient software. And always, always, keep up with software maintenance...it makes budgeting simple and turns upgrades into a question of "when am I ready to", vs. "when can I find a huge pile of money to rebuy all this software all over again".

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Yep, I do alot of work for small businesses and large and alot of the ones I work with that use devoted softare for what they do stick to Windows 98 and Windows 2000. To them, why upgrade it works like it is ?
End-of-life. Zero support. And if they're still actually using Win98 and Win2K, the risk of that desupport leading to virus infestations.

I get that this is harder for small businesses than larger ones, which is what I presume you're exposed to. No medium to large sized business on the planet should be using Win98 if they have a choice. If they are choosing to use that, their CIO needs to be whipped for leaving them exposed to that much risk.

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You are correct, however, you have to look at it from the "ignorant" consumer point of view. They are used to buying a computer from dell and that's it. Now they will have to pay per month/year to use their computer.

"What?!!? I have to pay per month to use my new totally awesome XPS 95000 gaming laptop with two cores?!"
What's so different about that than some other business models consumers have embraced? Tivo is a purchase plus a monthly fee, or a larger up-front purchase. Satellite TV is a purchase (one for each TV actually) plus monthly service fees. People that are okay with this model are very satisfied. People that don't choose another vendor. Same would happen with PCs and Windows, I would think. I.e., I don't see subscription Windows becoming mandatory for quite some time, it would just be another purchase option. Heck, some people might just choose to rent their PCs altogether...why spend $500 for a low-end PC when $15/month is so much easier to swallow for many people?
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Not to Microsoft.
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Can't wait for this. However, i will be keeping Vista on a 2nd HDD until it matures.
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