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Over the last couple years, I've developed a 'thick skin' when it comes to failing hardware. I used to get pretty wound up when a motherboard would jump ship or the system would be unstable to the point of being unusable but then I switched to the Nvidia 680i almost two years ago. What a ride that was. Toward the end of my Nvidia motherboard days, I didn't even flinch when my 780i, without warning or obvious cause, stopped posting two nights before I was to deliver processed photos to a customer.

I moved on to an 'old school' P35 board and I don't even remember what a system lock looks like. It just works and with little or no effort on my part. I now spend most of my time enjoying my pc instead of maintaining it.

The article shows what happens when you use the same MCP for years; spanning multiple generations of motherboards. Even with the people that have their underwear in a bundle over the GX2 and GTX card's performance, I think Nvidia makes a heck of a videocard. In that same breath, they make under-par motherboards that usually have a cost/feature ratio far below their competition. Factor that with the DOA rate and general unreliability amongst enthusiests (its target audience) I think Nvidia has a long way to go.
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Happy with my 790x. My old nForce board wasn't exactly cream of the crop...
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Happy with my 790x. My old nForce board wasn't exactly cream of the crop...
Exactly. There seem to be those out there, you included, that have nForce boards with absolutely no problems and those that are on their 2nd or 3rd. It's really hit or miss with these.

A friend had a 590i board from Asus and the northbridge on *stock clocks* was HOT to the touch. Not warm...HOT. As long as he didn't use two of the four DIMM slots, it worked awesome. Put a stick into the other slots and it was the BSOD marathon.
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Exactly. There seem to be those out there, you included, that have nForce boards with absolutely no problems and those that are on their 2nd or 3rd. It's really hit or miss with these.

A friend had a 590i board from Asus and the northbridge on *stock clocks* was HOT to the touch. Not warm...HOT. As long as he didn't use two of the four DIMM slots, it worked awesome. Put a stick into the other slots and it was the BSOD marathon.
I had problems with my RAID0 array being slower then a single disc. Games constantly locked up but that can be attributed to bad graphics drivers. BIOS was absolutely horrible but that is MSI's fault. The board was marketed as nForce 500 series but the chipset was clearly nForce 4, something that really made me angry. The design of the board was pathetic placing everything in the worst possible spot. North bridge was allot hotter then i would have liked, about where my CPU was under load. There were countless other little things, allot of it was nVidia's lack of programming skill, but things like my RAID performance being so horrible was distinctly the chipset itself.
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FACT: Nvidia chipsets aren't as good of quality as AMD or Intel.
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The X48 issues aren't that good either....
The X48 doesn't have all the hardware killing issues that the NForce does. The most they can complain about is a default setting, how hot it runs, and the like. At least a X48 board will function, while you are not guaranteed that same luxury with Nforce.
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FACT: Nvidia chipsets aren't as good of quality as AMD or Intel.
Fact: Intel has direct control of Intel CPU development.
Fact: AMD has direct control of AMD CPU development.

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Fact: Intel has direct control of Intel CPU development.
Fact: AMD has direct control of AMD CPU development.

The CPU should be a black box to the NB, I don't see how it is important.
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Fact: Intel has direct control of Intel CPU development.
Fact: AMD has direct control of AMD CPU development.

Even if they have all the technicals to the CPU it doesn't matter his point is still valid, nVidia motherboards are a big mistake unless you are going for SLI.
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The CPU should be a black box to the NB, I don't see how it is important.
In theory, that is correct. However, it is not in the real world. There are thousands of parameters (timing, signalling, noise, latency, microcode, etc) to account for. Also, not every spec or gotcha is easily reference. A lot of CPU and chipset knowledge is passed down. This is true with anything complex. For example, the US Space program needs another big project so the older engineers can pass their collective knowledge on. The same with the nuclear weapons program. Not everything is in a manual.


Also, remember that the 45nm Yorkfields worked with NVIDIA's 680i? Suddenly, it didn't?
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