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U got me, I apologize. Fact is, I've looked at that article so many times that I didn't even look at it this time, and I forgot exactly what the difference was. So yeah, it's 355.81%, not 388%. My bad.

And yeah, it's pretty difficult to understand someone's point when they won't even f***ing SAY what it IS.

I don't blame you for not doing do so, though.

I doubt you even know what it is ...
Now that was just downright rude.....
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U got me, I apologize. Fact is, I've looked at that article so many times that I didn't even look at it this time, and I forgot exactly what the difference was. So yeah, it's 355.81%, not 388%. My bad.

And yeah, it's pretty difficult to understand someone's point when they won't even f***ing SAY what it IS.

I don't blame you for not doing do so, though.

I doubt you even know what it is ...
doing do so ay? yeah why dont you just not talk unless you have something worth saying
    
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Here, I'm gonna restate my points really simple, okay?

1) The reason that the 8800GT 512MB card typically (by that I mean, in most cases) beats the 8800GT 1GB card has nothing to do with the 256-bit memory bus. It has to do with the 1GB of vram having looser timings.

2) If you take and compare the performance of the 8800GT and 8800GTS set at the SAME clock speeds (thus, the only difference is the count of stream processors), you will find that INCREASING in-game resolutions does little or nothing to affect the % DIFFERENCE in performance between the cards.

In other words IF (assuming the same clocks), in a given game the GTS beats the GT by 10% at 1024x768, it will beat the GT by 10% at 1920 as well.

However, as you choose and test different GAMES, you will see that this affects the performance difference between these cards in a more noticeable way. Some games the GTS would beat the GT by 5%, some games it might be closer to 12%. And again, that difference would hold steady through all resolutions, assuming you use the same clocks.

Now that I spell out more clearly to you the points I was making, perhaps you'd like to gracefully bow out by saying you don't actually disagree with me?
    
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On topic... the GTS is better so just get that.

Between the 1GB and 512MB 8800GT, looking at the proven games a 1%-2% performance difference is easily noise. That being the case there is no difference. brettjv's call on latency or memory controller stress does make sense. However, we do see some games where there's a very large difference. However, these games are DX10 (all of them?) which have huge differences. I would have to think these are more a result of drivers or optimization issues rather than just memory size. Too bad they didn't throw in a game like Oblivion which is a known video RAM eater...
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And apologize to everyone if I was being rude.

It's very frustrating to have somebody say they disagree with something you've said, and that they are ready to argue about it, and then proceed to give the impression that they've somehow argued and even WON ... without even telling you what the hell it is they're arguing with you ABOUT.
    
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On topic... the GTS is better so just get that.

Between the 1GB and 512MB 8800GT, looking at the proven games a 1%-2% performance difference is easily noise. That being the case there is no difference. brettjv's call on latency or memory controller stress does make sense. However, we do see some games where there's a very large difference. However, these games are DX10 (all of them?) which have huge differences. I would have to think these are more a result of drivers or optimization issues rather than just memory size. Too bad they didn't throw in a game like Oblivion which is a known video RAM eater...
Thanks for some props there duckie

I personally am of the opinion that there comes a point where certain games, at certain resolutions and AA levels, have the ability to 'use' or 'require' MORE than 512MB of vram. Typically these would be games with large levels and/or high-resolution textures. These are the scenarios where having >512MB of vram can potentially show dramatic % performance increases because a 512MB card will have to use regular system memory and suffer the effects of what is known as 'cache thrashing'.

Thus, I think the occasional creation of such scenarios in these benches, along with looser memory timings on the 1GB card, explains why the 512MB card tends to win by around 1% in the majority of cases, but in certain games , typically with settings that are likely to *require* more vram (e.g. higher res/AA), we see the 1GB card basically blowing doors off the 512MB card.

Does this mean I think that the 1GB card is a 'better choice'? Not necessarily. It would depend on the price difference, and whether I planned to go SLI with a 24" or better monitor at sometime in the near future.
    
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doing do so ay? yeah why dont you just not talk unless you have something worth saying
Yeah, jumping into a thread to point out someone's minor typo ... now THAT is something CLEARLY 'worth saying'.

Laughable, man!
    
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wow, if i had known asking a simple yes or no question would have sparked an arguement, i wouldnt have, now brettjv, as a relatively new member to ocn all i can say is try not to get ahead of yourself too much, you might end up in trouble
    
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