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The Corsair memory is awsome, work beuatifully. The only complaint was the motherboard did not detect rated timings or voltage, it set 1066 mhz and some ungodly timings of like 8-8-8-24 or something at 1.8V. I set them to the rated timings (5-5-5-15) first and left the voltage alone, no boot, then I set the voltage to what it was rated at 2.1 and wolla, took right off. I have had it like that for 3 or 4 days now gaming and ible load and no problems what so ever, no locks, bsod, reboots, no boots, etc.

I quess I am going to give the Zalman a go and see how well it does. By the way, do you have it mounted horizontal or vertical or is it vertical only?

Edit: Also, I havn't tried overclocking the memory yet, so I have no clue how it will go yet. I soon want to see where I can take it, but I will probally leave memory at stock.
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Originally Posted by Darkvette View Post
I'm running an X2 6400 BE, and it's nice, but I'm definitely looking forward to my 9850 BE.

The question is, are those people getting it to 3.5 on stock cooling, air, or water? **something to check in to**



I can't wait to see what this thing can do and how fast it can go
I don't remember the site, but I read on it some guy was getting just over 3.5 ghz with water cooling, not 100% stable but close. There was other people on there getting 3.0-3.2 with aftermarket air coolers, stable. I'm hoping I can get 3 ghz out of mine, that would make me very very happy.
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Hello everybody,

as I have some problems with exactly this combination, I dare to put my first post into theis thread (I did some search first of course, but I don't see any other thread with exactly what I'm expereiencing)

I built an all new system of the M3A32-MVP Deluxe (the small one without WiFi on the newest 1002 BIOS), the 9850 Black Edition. RAM is 4 Gigs of 1066 COZ Platinum, a 3870 X2 gfx card, 2x WD 320 GB (regular 7200 SATAs in Raid 0), all powered by a 750 Watts Corsair PSU.
As I said, the whole setup is new, so it's a bit hard for me to find out the source of the evil, described as follow:

While all components are prefectly recognized by the BIOS and they run absolutely nice and stable, once the biox is up, I do have VERY inconsitent cold boots. Nearly 100% of all boots end up in a black screnn before even the BIOS comes up. it looks very much like the power distribution on POST is not complete (on the NZXT case I use the upper blue case LED won't shne, which is just like I wouldn't pug in the second power connector (the 4 pin one) to the MoBo at all).
If I then start to cycle thorugh power offs and new boots, after some time the system will boot normally, - sometimes I might get an F1 errros, stating a CPU cooler error at the first successful boot).
Once the system is up, as I stated, everything works fine. I can alos do reboots without any hickups or cold boots after shutting down, if I don't wait too long, without problems.

Does anybody make any sense out of this behavior? I suspect the Motherboard, above all. However it might also be the PSU or the CPU. Any similar expeiences with that combination or ideas? Any hint would be helpful, because it seems to be high time to RMA at least one component, but I have no idea which one and don't want to wait for ages with a non operative system.

Edit: I forgot to mention the CPU cooler for reference (as I sometimes get that F1 error about it). It's a Zalman CNPS 8700NT (the one that's controlled directly by the MB)
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post #24 of 191
I had some of the same but not as severe. Every time I pressed the power button the thing would not boot until I turned power off and turned it on a second time. That issue I'm pretty sure is now cured on my system, either from bios update from 801 to 1002 (I think, what ever is the latest) or from switch my CPU from an Athlon 64 X2 6400+. These two things was the only think I change and the problem disappeared, but now if your having problems with the newest bios, makes me wonder if my problem isn't gone.

First make sure you have power where it needs to be, the 8 pin one to the top left of the CPU and 24 pin ATX connector.

One other thing you could try is once booted, flash the bios with 1 older, 801 I do beleive, then back to the newest.
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Hello everybody,

as I have some problems with exactly this combination, I dare to put my first post into theis thread (I did some search first of course, but I don't see any other thread with exactly what I'm expereiencing)

I built an all new system of the M3A32-MVP Deluxe (the small one without WiFi on the newest 1002 BIOS), the 9850 Black Edition. RAM is 4 Gigs of 1066 COZ Platinum, a 3870 X2 gfx card, 2x WD 320 GB (regular 7200 SATAs in Raid 0), all powered by a 750 Watts Corsair PSU.
As I said, the whole setup is new, so it's a bit hard for me to find out the source of the evil, described as follow:

While all components are prefectly recognized by the BIOS and they run absolutely nice and stable, once the biox is up, I do have VERY inconsitent cold boots. Nearly 100% of all boots end up in a black screnn before even the BIOS comes up. it looks very much like the power distribution on POST is not complete (on the NZXT case I use the upper blue case LED won't shne, which is just like I wouldn't pug in the second power connector (the 4 pin one) to the MoBo at all).
If I then start to cycle thorugh power offs and new boots, after some time the system will boot normally, - sometimes I might get an F1 errros, stating a CPU cooler error at the first successful boot).
Once the system is up, as I stated, everything works fine. I can alos do reboots without any hickups or cold boots after shutting down, if I don't wait too long, without problems.

Does anybody make any sense out of this behavior? I suspect the Motherboard, above all. However it might also be the PSU or the CPU. Any similar expeiences with that combination or ideas? Any hint would be helpful, because it seems to be high time to RMA at least one component, but I have no idea which one and don't want to wait for ages with a non operative system.

Edit: I forgot to mention the CPU cooler for reference (as I sometimes get that F1 error about it). It's a Zalman CNPS 8700NT (the one that's controlled directly by the MB)
First, I would check the RAM, it could be a RAM issue, one of your RAM sticks being bad. I would also update your bios to 1002, that is the most phenom compatible that I have seen. Next, check your PSU, I had to connect the full 8-pin (6+2pin) connector into the mobo to get it to boot properly with the Phenom, so make sure that's connected. With the X2s you only needed the 4-pin, but the Phenoms are different.

Also, you might try a barebones bootup, disconnect everything and take out everything and reconnect/replace one piece at a time until you get a successful bootup (i.e.):
1. Take out the CPU and see if you get a beep or not, if you don't, it may be the CPU or Mobo.
2. Take out the RAM and see if you get a beep or not, if you don't, could be RAM or Mobo again - but more likely RAM.
3. Try with another GC or try the GC in another PCIe slot.

Let me know what you find out. Hope this helps some.

I know some of those suggestions are a bit old-school, but they still work really well for singling out problems.

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The Corsair memory is awsome, work beuatifully. The only complaint was the motherboard did not detect rated timings or voltage, it set 1066 mhz and some ungodly timings of like 8-8-8-24 or something at 1.8V. I set them to the rated timings (5-5-5-15) first and left the voltage alone, no boot, then I set the voltage to what it was rated at 2.1 and wolla, took right off. I have had it like that for 3 or 4 days now gaming and ible load and no problems what so ever, no locks, bsod, reboots, no boots, etc.

I quess I am going to give the Zalman a go and see how well it does. By the way, do you have it mounted horizontal or vertical or is it vertical only?

Edit: Also, I havn't tried overclocking the memory yet, so I have no clue how it will go yet. I soon want to see where I can take it, but I will probally leave memory at stock.
Let me know how your Zalman works. Mine is mounted Vertically, unfortunately the only way you can mount it on the M3A32-MVP.

I'm still thinking Corsair Dominator, Crucial Ballistix, or G. Skill PC2-1066 4GB kits, so not sure definitely as of yet. I'm getting fed up with the GeIL that I have, it doesn't OC hardly at all .

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I don't remember the site, but I read on it some guy was getting just over 3.5 ghz with water cooling, not 100% stable but close. There was other people on there getting 3.0-3.2 with aftermarket air coolers, stable. I'm hoping I can get 3 ghz out of mine, that would make me very very happy.
I can get my PC up to 3GHz, but Windows won't boot if I go past 2.9. I know it's my RAM. I've had numerous issues with it in the past, so we'll see.
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I'm going to wait until I get the Zalman before I do anymore overclocking, so once I get it, I'll let you know where my temps goes, then I'll see how far I can push the memory.

For anyone elses interest my 3DMark06 score are as follows, only thing overclocked is the CPU at 2.8 Ghz.

With 2 Radeon 3870's (777 / 1126): 14546
With 3 Radeon 3870's (777 / 1126): 15326
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post #27 of 191
Thanks for the answers so far. I already thought aobut plugging the full 8-pin, but didn't dare to for the lack of full knowledge what that'd mean.
I suspect that connection might have to do with my boot behavior, as when I unplug the 4 pin completely, I get exactly the same boot, just 100% consistent then.
I'll try it tonight when I get home and keep you posted.
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post #28 of 191
hello everyone.. has anyone managed to get this over 2.8 100% stable if so what settings did you use.. i have tried cpu voltage, vddu voltage, nb and sb voltages.. diffrerent ram timings.. i can boot at 3.1 but just not stable for long.. i eventually get a bsod saying clock interrupt on secondary processor..

some people have been saying that this board maybe holding the cpu back.. and advised that the dfi and gigabyte board oc much better.. pain cos ive just bought this one
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post #29 of 191
Again, I don't remember the site (was when I was serching Google) but read 64-bit Vista was why we can't get past 2.8 ghz. Whether or not its true, I do not have a clue. I can't overclock any farther yet as I'm hot enough as is. WHen I get a new cooler on the CPU I'll try some more. I don't think I was even able to boot ( I think I made post) into Vista at 2.9 ghz.

I am foaming out the mouth to get to 3.0 ghz, but right now I don't know if its tempature related or something else. I'm hoping Monday I can find out, if not it will be whenever the Zalman arrives, hoping Monday.
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I'm running XP Pro and can't get to 3 gigs.
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