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I suppose all those companies are guilty of "piracy"... lmao.
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If anything, Hank at PP down here in Florida should be suing ULTRA. He made the first modular psu in 2003.
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post #43 of 249
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Originally Posted by C-bro View Post
End of story.

Ultra owns the rights to that particular idea and people used that idea to make money. Whether Ultra initially came up with the idea is moot. They had the foresight to see it's profitability and legally take ownership. As it was mentioned before, all the other companies knew the patent existed and knew they were stealing that concept. You talk about the moral bankruptcy of Ultra, but what about the morals involved for that long list of manufacturers that stole their patented idea?

I can't say whether patent squatting or patent theft is more morally acceptable, but at least one of them is legal...
I believe if you check the first page or so you will see you are essentially paraphrasing me while acting like you are explaining something to me.

Also:

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Originally Posted by PGT96AJT
Wrong, In the US it's first to invent unlike other countries that are first to file. If Performance-PC's has documented evidence they can still file and get a patent...or at least avoid getting sued.
Yep, and additionally as I understand if a concept is published in open literature NOBODY can patent it. Too bad we aren't in the scientific world here eh?




The fact that some here feel that common practice=acceptable really disturbs me. Ultra may or may not win, but they are going to have an uphill battle, I'll guarantee that.
post #44 of 249
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Originally Posted by Drax View Post
If anything, Hank at PP down here in Florida should be suing ULTRA. He made the first modular psu in 2003.
If you'll take a look at the patent link that was posted a page or so back the Ultra patent is for a completely boxed in-case unit. Based on what I've read the original Performance PC's units were not contained within the PSU's case.
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LOL... I just noticed Koolance was on the list. They produced one PSU in the last 6 years.
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post #46 of 249
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If you'll take a look at the patent link that was posted a page or so back the Ultra patent is for a completely boxed in-case unit. Based on what I've read the original Performance PC's units were not contained within the PSU's case.
I do not work at the patent office, nor am I a patent lawyer, but I do know a thing or two about patents.

Right now for example, my company is included in a joint patent along with the Office of Naval research and Applied Physics labs, for a Gizmo that we manufacture. Variations of this Gizmo have been made since the 60's. Ours is MUCH MUCH different than any of them, yet we have spent $100,000 in legal fees over the last year and still haven't pushed this patent through, although everyone involved feels we will eventually.

My guess is that the defendants will sign some kind of agreement with Performance PC's, and then sponsor to attack Ultra's patent. All they have to do is prove that putting the connectors inside isn't enough of a variation on the Performance PC's design, and the patent can be proven invalid, at least for what Ultra is attempting to use it for in this case. They just have to pray that Ultra doesn't have proof of concept before that date, which I seriously doubt they do.

If they do though, then I take back everything I said.

I think that they may have a chance, because the placement of the connectors inside or outside the enclosure in no way affects the intended use of the concept.
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Originally Posted by DuckieHo View Post
LOL... I just noticed Koolance was on the list. They produced one PSU in the last 6 years.
Man I bet that was one nasty PSU........
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post #48 of 249
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Man I bet that was one nasty PSU........
It probably was made out of all aluminum and watercooled.
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Originally Posted by DuckieHo View Post
Then again, all the other companies knew about the patent. Therefore, who's at fault now? Which is worse... Patent Squatting or Patent Stealing?
They're equal imo

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Originally Posted by onlycodered View Post
Well, had modular power supplies been out before Ultra created that patent? That's the real question.
Yes is the real answer. Are they allowed to patent something that was already out in the first place
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post #50 of 249
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Originally Posted by nategr8ns View Post
They're equal imo :
I agree to some degree, but the true abuser of the patent system is Ultra; they are basically spitting in the face of every true inventor that ever lived, as hundreds of companies do worldwide on a daily basis.

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Originally Posted by nategr8ns View Post
Yes is the real answer. Are they allowed to patent something that was already out in the first place
They are allowed to try, but that doesn't necesarily mean that they'll get to hang on to it.
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