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post #51 of 87
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Originally Posted by mhsbrian View Post
Lol ? Is that a joke ?

If by competing you mean, horrible draw lines low FPS and practically NO hardware upgrades and lower quality textures.

Take all that away....
Then Sureeeeeeeeeeeee.
CoD4 runs at a constant 60FPS on 360. And Draw lines? You mean distance? FLAMER!
post #52 of 87
Man what a waste of pots or pans... (In the video)

PC>Console Yes, but comparing same generation PC to Console, console will always be a ton cheaper, but always the console will give some good and reasonable hardware specs at the time to play some good frames and you spend $1000 on your pcs to play the same way (yes you can do a ton more on your pc but who gives a crap) Microsoft and Sony's next generation of consoles should be something worth waiting.

My opionion: PC always had better shooters but the console controler always gave driving a good feel to it. Wii is over reaching to most older gamers, but mario galaxy would be a boring hell on the computer... it purely depends on the game

And also:
Now lets talk 3 years ago wen the 360 was released:
You got your Athlon 64 w/e rating+ $300
You got your x1800/x1900 + 500
Put 2GB of DDR ram: $150

Looks like a joke for the price today.

Now take a look at the 360
3 Cores 3ghz each (Yes ghz means very little)
Xenos or R500 (Probably close performing to the x1900XT)
Ram: 512mb (Enough to fuel the thing, its not Vista for crying out load)

A joke compared to most people's q6660@ 3.6ghz and 8800GT's, but look at how much the pc cost before to get the same specs as the 360 and the 360 made the 360 "elite" which sells more than the starting price which the 360 came out.

don't get me started on the ps3.
post #53 of 87
Don't forget, the Console + Games + the TV cost alot more back than, than
it does now... I'd still put my money that the computer of the same gen
would still be cheaper than the console... Hard to compare at the time of
writting, because I don't have the prices of that gen of computer hardware
to compare to the console at the time... so it's an unprovable statment.

As any wise person told me, "if you don't have you can't prove that your right"
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post #54 of 87
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Originally Posted by Wrapper View Post
Why are we comparison a single console unit, to a full computer??? Has
everyone forgot that a console still requires a television, and all the goodies
that come with it?

Lets do a fair comparision... Lets assume that a Canadian average joe goes
into an electronic store (for this comparison, lets assume this store is called
futureshop, located in Ontario.) Lets also assume that he owns a fairly
recent Computer (1-2years), and a fairly recent HDTV(1-2years)... This
person would be interested in gamming...

He could upgrade his computer with an 8800gt (XFX Alpha Dog Edition) for
$199 (Futureshop will offer to install this card, last time I checked, there was
no added fee).

Now the Xbox 360 costs by itself + one controller, $349.99, while the PS3 +
one Controller = $399.99

$199 < $399 therefor the Graphic card upgrade would cost less than the
console.

Now, lets factor in a new PC/HDTV + all the accessories needed to run each.
Looking at futureshop, a gamming PC with an 8800gt + QuadCore (9600
phenom) + 3gb ram + 500gb HD costs for $1099 (Gateway FX7020)... This
price includes keyboard/mouse/speakers. Now lets factor in the monitor... 24
" Monitor (1920x1200) go for $429.95 at the same store. Factor in 10 games (
$40 x 10)... so about $400 on games... don't forget the cable for the
monitor... 2m DVI Male to Male... $51.99

$1099 - Computer
$429.95 - 24" Monitor
$400 - 10 Games
$51.99 - Monitor Cable
----------------------
$1980.94

Consoles require a console (lets assume an Xbox360, the cheaper of the 2
systems) starting at $349.99. an HDTV with 1080p (1920x1080) Sharp Aquos
32" TV at $1099... a 2m HDMI cable goes for $179.99. 10 games ($60 each)
goes for $600

$349.99 - Console
$1099 - HDTV
$600 - 10 Games
$179.99 - HDMI Cable
---------------------
$2228.98

$1980.94 < $2228.98



Come to your own conclusion... I think the results speak for themselves.
sorry for the long post

Please note: We are talking about the average consumer! This post is
to prove that a gamming computer is cheaper than a console, and is
available to the average consumer in a consumer friendly manner.

Now can we get back on topic, instead of not giving proof that
gamming on a console is cheaper than gamming on a computer
You don't need a HDTV to play a console and certainly not a 1080P tv. I don't know why you people like to add that in there like its a requirement. I know plenty of people with their 360s in their room with their SD tv. Oh and Im pretty sure you need to add a PSU, and possibly ram upgrade to that computer.
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post #55 of 87
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Originally Posted by Wrapper View Post
Why are we comparison a single console unit, to a full computer??? Has
everyone forgot that a console still requires a television, and all the goodies
that come with it?

Lets do a fair comparision... Lets assume that a Canadian average joe goes
into an electronic store (for this comparison, lets assume this store is called
futureshop, located in Ontario.) Lets also assume that he owns a fairly
recent Computer (1-2years), and a fairly recent HDTV(1-2years)... This
person would be interested in gamming...

He could upgrade his computer with an 8800gt (XFX Alpha Dog Edition) for
$199 (Futureshop will offer to install this card, last time I checked, there was
no added fee).

Now the Xbox 360 costs by itself + one controller, $349.99, while the PS3 +
one Controller = $399.99

$199 < $399 therefor the Graphic card upgrade would cost less than the
console.

Now, lets factor in a new PC/HDTV + all the accessories needed to run each.
Looking at futureshop, a gamming PC with an 8800gt + QuadCore (9600
phenom) + 3gb ram + 500gb HD costs for $1099 (Gateway FX7020)... This
price includes keyboard/mouse/speakers. Now lets factor in the monitor... 24
" Monitor (1920x1200) go for $429.95 at the same store. Factor in 10 games (
$40 x 10)... so about $400 on games... don't forget the cable for the
monitor... 2m DVI Male to Male... $51.99

$1099 - Computer
$429.95 - 24" Monitor
$400 - 10 Games
$51.99 - Monitor Cable
----------------------
$1980.94

Consoles require a console (lets assume an Xbox360, the cheaper of the 2
systems) starting at $349.99. an HDTV with 1080p (1920x1080) Sharp Aquos
32" TV at $1099... a 2m HDMI cable goes for $179.99. 10 games ($60 each)
goes for $600

$349.99 - Console
$1099 - HDTV
$600 - 10 Games
$179.99 - HDMI Cable
---------------------
$2228.98

$1980.94 < $2228.98



Come to your own conclusion... I think the results speak for themselves.
sorry for the long post

Please note: We are talking about the average consumer! This post is
to prove that a gamming computer is cheaper than a console, and is
available to the average consumer in a consumer friendly manner.

Now can we get back on topic, instead of not giving proof that
gamming on a console is cheaper than gamming on a computer

you inflated the price for a console more then it needed to be.

$349.99 - xbox 360
$429.95 - 24" Monitor
$600 - 10 Games
$39.99 - vga Cable
--------------------
1419.97

Ok using a monitor for a gaming console is not common lets go with a TV then.

$996.99 - 42' westing house 1080p(not even needed for gaming)
$349.99 - xbox 360
$600 - 10 games
$44.99 - monster cable HDMI(component can do hi-def) optional
---------------------------
$ 1991.97 with HDMI cable
$ 1946.98 without HDMI cable.


Since the 360 does not require a 1080p tv we can realistically take any tv and use it.

$ 549.99 - Samsung LCD 22 inch 720p(the price can be lower if you want)\\
$ 349.99 - xbox 360
$ 600 - 10 games
no cables needed
-----------------------------
$ 1499.98

I can go even lower since the 360 has the ability to output in SD so technically yes console gaming is cheaper since less is required. The argument that you need a Hi-def TV is one of personal requirement. My Tv does only 1080i but i use 720p. it only cost me 899 at costcos and does the job just fine while the games may cost more, thee equipment to run those games are cheaper.

Also i did read your pricing list. Your assuming the person has a flat screen. I still know people who don't have flat screens but still own xboxs and are able to play them with no problem. So your 1099 price tag for a tv is an assumption.
    
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post #56 of 87
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Originally Posted by Wrapper View Post
Why are we comparison a single console unit, to a full computer??? Has
everyone forgot that a console still requires a television, and all the goodies
that come with it?

Lets do a fair comparision... Lets assume that a Canadian average joe goes
into an electronic store (for this comparison, lets assume this store is called
futureshop, located in Ontario.) Lets also assume that he owns a fairly
recent Computer (1-2years), and a fairly recent HDTV(1-2years)... This
person would be interested in gamming...

He could upgrade his computer with an 8800gt (XFX Alpha Dog Edition) for
$199 (Futureshop will offer to install this card, last time I checked, there was
no added fee).

Now the Xbox 360 costs by itself + one controller, $349.99, while the PS3 +
one Controller = $399.99

$199 < $399 therefor the Graphic card upgrade would cost less than the
console.

Now, lets factor in a new PC/HDTV + all the accessories needed to run each.
Looking at futureshop, a gamming PC with an 8800gt + QuadCore (9600
phenom) + 3gb ram + 500gb HD costs for $1099 (Gateway FX7020)... This
price includes keyboard/mouse/speakers. Now lets factor in the monitor... 24
" Monitor (1920x1200) go for $429.95 at the same store. Factor in 10 games (
$40 x 10)... so about $400 on games... don't forget the cable for the
monitor... 2m DVI Male to Male... $51.99

$1099 - Computer
$429.95 - 24" Monitor
$400 - 10 Games
$51.99 - Monitor Cable
----------------------
$1980.94

Consoles require a console (lets assume an Xbox360, the cheaper of the 2
systems) starting at $349.99. an HDTV with 1080p (1920x1080) Sharp Aquos
32" TV at $1099... a 2m HDMI cable goes for $179.99. 10 games ($60 each)
goes for $600

$349.99 - Console
$1099 - HDTV
$600 - 10 Games
$179.99 - HDMI Cable
---------------------
$2228.98

$1980.94 < $2228.98



Come to your own conclusion... I think the results speak for themselves.
sorry for the long post

Please note: We are talking about the average consumer! This post is
to prove that a gamming computer is cheaper than a console, and is
available to the average consumer in a consumer friendly manner.

Now can we get back on topic, instead of not giving proof that
gamming on a console is cheaper than gamming on a computer
Do you realize that the 32" TV is 77% bigger than the 24" monitor you pointed out? And why would you spend $180 on HDMI cables when you can buy a 6' cable for $12 online? How about let's switch the 32" TV for the 42" Westinghouse TX-42F430S, which is the same price as the 32" Sharp but 200% larger than your 24" monitor?
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Do you realize that the 32" TV is 77% bigger than the 24" monitor you pointed out? And why would you spend $180 on HDMI cables when you can buy a 6' cable for $12 online? How about let's switch the 32" TV for the 42" Westinghouse TX-42F430S, which is the same price as the 32" Sharp but 200% larger than your 24" monitor?
same thing i argued in the post above.
    
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same thing i argued in the post above.
Ah, sorry, you got there before me while I was typing.
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What 8800GT are we talking about here? Last time I checked my 8800GT can't run Crysis on High @ 60 FPS @ 720p/1080p
Nor will the PS3 or 360 be able to either. It was big news when Halo 3 was going to run at a whopping 60 frames a second. Consoles don't run high framerates and you will see this on PS3/360.
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What do you mean I didn't? I'm saying the reason I said I hate that this is coming to consoles is because the PC doesn't have many good exclusives. That IS the reason. I'm not hating on the consoles, if you've read ANY of my other console posts you'd know I defend all 3 of them the best I can.
Why does it matter if PC have exclusive? All I need is mods for games.
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